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Made in nl
Stubborn Hammerer






Struggling about in Asmos territory.

DISCLAIMER: I don't mean to add harlequin to a drukhari army but the other way around mind you

So on the Shattered mirage (one of my two harlequin troupes, the other being Silent shroud) page of the codex I read the following;
"With no fear of death, the Shattered Mirage are intent only on causing as much destruction as possible and often strike at insanely difficult targets where they would fight against ridiculous odds. This has led many of its performers to take up forbidden weapons and calling upon horrific allies to heighten the bloodshed such as the shadow-ghouls of Aelindrach as well as the Haemonculi.[3]"
also; https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Masque_of_the_Shattered_Mirage

I am now wondering if this means that I can field such units and which ones these are exactly? (I take it from the drukhari army)
I mean, does this mean I can legally (hehh srsly.. -_- ) field units like mandrakes (they just released a killteam for this I think) and even demons? (Haemonculi are pretty cool anyway, maybe should atleast buy one of those if this is all legit)
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aelindrach

What about shaderaven? Are those like AOS shadeborn or something else? (I see mandrakes have shadeweaver but unsure if thats a unique or a type)
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shaderaven

Hope someone can help.

This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2024/10/03 12:20:15


"Why would i be lying for Wechhudrs sake man.., i do not write fiction!"

 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Somewhere in Canada

That's a cool Masque.

I don't have access to the 10th ed Aeldari index right now; 40k downloads doesn't seem to be working at Warcom, and the computer I downloaded all the cards on is out of town with my partner right now.

In a friendly game, I would 100% allow Harlies + Coven models + Mandrakes. The rules might even make that possible, but I'm not sure.

Daemons would be a harder sell, and Shaderavens would be hardest because there aren't ANY rules for them. You may be able to find a unit with similar characteristics and do a counts-as... But that may still be a stretch.

Even though it may not fit your fluff, you may have to take a Drukhari army and add Harlies. That gives you access to Coven units, Mandrakes and Harlies... But I think it also means the Harly part can only be 25% of your total points and can't include your Warlord.

It would also restrict you to a Drukhari detachment, meaning that your Harlies may not benefit much from your detachment rules.

Find/cultivate an open minded group of narrative players, and you may be okay to change some of those arbitrary requirements. But chances are, pick-up games at stores won't let you.
   
Made in nl
Stubborn Hammerer






Struggling about in Asmos territory.

 PenitentJake wrote:
That's a cool Masque.

I don't have access to the 10th ed Aeldari index right now; 40k downloads doesn't seem to be working at Warcom, and the computer I downloaded all the cards on is out of town with my partner right now.

In a friendly game, I would 100% allow Harlies + Coven models + Mandrakes. The rules might even make that possible, but I'm not sure.

Daemons would be a harder sell, and Shaderavens would be hardest because there aren't ANY rules for them. You may be able to find a unit with similar characteristics and do a counts-as... But that may still be a stretch.

Even though it may not fit your fluff, you may have to take a Drukhari army and add Harlies. That gives you access to Coven units, Mandrakes and Harlies... But I think it also means the Harly part can only be 25% of your total points and can't include your Warlord.

It would also restrict you to a Drukhari detachment, meaning that your Harlies may not benefit much from your detachment rules.

Find/cultivate an open minded group of narrative players, and you may be okay to change some of those arbitrary requirements. But chances are, pick-up games at stores won't let you.

Thanks for your post.
I looked a bit more with different searchterms and did find a page on post harlequin codex release rules stating that Harlequin-armies can take mandrakes, but no word about haemonculi or shaderavens.

I will take home a mandrake kt box when it drops (tomorrow, but can't make the travel to salespoint yet as I'm waiting for a paint-order there first), also mailed WD with the same q btw, maybe they can provide a more official answer on the haemons and shaderaven in particular.

"Why would i be lying for Wechhudrs sake man.., i do not write fiction!"

 
   
Made in ca
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With the current rules, adding Drukhari to your Harlequin (Aeldari) army requires you to :

1. Bring Yvraine as the warlord
2. Limit your list to 50% Drukhari

And prevents you from bringing :

Phoenix Lords
Avatar of Khaine
Solitaire
Haemonculus Covens units.


https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/aeldari/#Ynnari
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Somewhere in Canada

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
With the current rules, adding Drukhari to your Harlequin (Aeldari) army requires you to :

1. Bring Yvraine as the warlord
2. Limit your list to 50% Drukhari

And prevents you from bringing :

Phoenix Lords
Avatar of Khaine
Solitaire
Haemonculus Covens units.


https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/aeldari/#Ynnari


Yep. That's why I suggested adding the Harlequins to a Drukhari army instead. I know that isn't what OP wanted, but it would allow him to use more of the models he wants without taking any he doesn't. Unfortunately, it might not feel like a Harlequin army despite its composition because of the detachment rules, the Warlord requirement and the 25% cap on Quins.

Damn though, I hope he finds a group that likes narrative play and flexibility, because it sounds like a hella cool army. I'd let him play it.
   
 
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