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 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
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modern naval vessels can be secured for NBC operations, which would suggest they can be sealed against atmosphere now...

...NBC operations? What, like filming episodes of America's Got Talent?

Not sure if you are just taking the opportunity for a joke or don’t know, but: Nuclear, biological, chemical warfare. Basically button up tight to keep the rads/bugs/toxins out.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
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modern naval vessels can be secured for NBC operations, which would suggest they can be sealed against atmosphere now...

...NBC operations? What, like filming episodes of America's Got Talent?

Not sure if you are just taking the opportunity for a joke or don’t know, but: Nuclear, biological, chemical warfare. Basically button up tight to keep the rads/bugs/toxins out.

I think I have an unknown mental disorder that prevents me from not sharing my brand of humor with others. (My friends call it Sadism).

All my friends joined the surface fleet, so I have hundreds of stories of missile keys ending up in the laundry to crispy seagulls needing to be cleaned up from the bow of the ship.

 Flinty wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I always wondered about the Ork submersible, wethere they were engineered to be submarines, or they were just boats that kept sinking.

Little bit of column A, little bit of column B


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@MDG - a quick Google suggests that modern naval vessels can be secured for NBC operations, which would suggest they can be sealed against atmosphere now. Exhaust ports might need special seals that open potentially be sacrificial on landing.

I don’t see why a titan grade plasma reactor would be less efficient when fitted on a different chassis.

Nice to know that the drop scenario is somewhat plausible based on existing designs.

As for the Plasma Reactor? This is the Imperium. Designs aren’t modified, so one couldn’t just take a Titan’s reactor and repurpose it. I’m just acknowledging that different grades exist, and we can’t necessarily assume size of vessel dictates output of reactor.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oh it’s far worse than that if the powering reactor goes.

Capacitor? A bang for sure, but not “how is the road also on fire now” bang?

Realistically it wouldn't, fusion reactors naturally shutdown if damaged because maintaining a fusion reaction is near impossible unless you happen to be a star.

But 40k's reactors are made of explodium for dramatic reasons, so yeah.

I put it down to not really understanding them.

I wouldn’t put it past every single plasma reactor having a safety switch type thing nobody uses, because the one surviving copy of the owners manual has a recaf stain in just the wrong place, or the page missing.

Regarding transportation: Battleship hulls tend to be a bit sturdier and less fiddly than ground vehicles and technically they don't need to be pressurized during transit. And Mass doesn't matter as much in space as elsewhere. So is there something specific speaking against an empty Yamato class battleship hull just being strapped to the side of a merchant vessel, brought to some planet and then landed on the surface? The bigger Dropships the Imperium uses seem to be much heavier, so getting something of that mass savely to ground seems to be possible.

Technically, especially with the STCs I could see some "Standard-Battleship" design that already has the necessary attachment points to just stick some minimalistic mooring vessel that is basically just a Warp-drive and the parts needed to get it to ground to it and be ready to go.

Definitely.

STC’s are about far more than just warfare. They were intended to give each and every colony as much of a chance at survive and thrive as possible.

And once you’d got up and running on one world? There may well be others locally you want to go and grab.

To give non-specialised folks a chance to build an ocean going vehicle on Planet A, then pilot it to Planet B which has loads of oceans? Deployable and/or disposable cradle type setups and vessels sealed against a vacuum would surely not be a rare design? Heck, even just being able to build a ship wherever, then fly it to your local large body of ocean has an appeal for any settlement just about getting on its feet, without said settlement needing to be particularly coastal.

 Pyroalchi wrote:
Regarding transportation: Battleship hulls tend to be a bit sturdier and less fiddly than ground vehicles and technically they don't need to be pressurized during transit. And Mass doesn't matter as much in space as elsewhere. So is there something specific speaking against an empty Yamato class battleship hull just being strapped to the side of a merchant vessel, brought to some planet and then landed on the surface? The bigger Dropships the Imperium uses seem to be much heavier, so getting something of that mass savely to ground seems to be possible.

Mass matters way more in space than in anywhere else. More mass means more fuel needed, means higher forces your ship's structure needs to endure when you accelerate. If not properly aligned it can throw off your center of mass which means your ship will be unbalanced and will spin.

Sure the massive size of 40k ships means all of the above is likely to not be that much of an issue with a relatively tiny wet ship, but mass pretty much dominates space travel equations.

Which may be where limited anti-grav might come into it.

For deployment to the planet, and getting somewhere faster between engagements, a suspensor web to offset the mass might pay dividends. Or at least give a more consistent speed planetside between fully loaded and not loaded. Might (only might, I’m not up on physics, and don’t want to just Magic It Way) even allow for ship sizes modern materials wouldn’t allow.


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Fortuitously timed Spacedock video, to add to the conversation.

 Tyran wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oh it’s far worse than that if the powering reactor goes.

Capacitor? A bang for sure, but not “how is the road also on fire now” bang?

Realistically it wouldn't, fusion reactors naturally shutdown if damaged because maintaining a fusion reaction is near impossible unless you happen to be a star.

But 40k's reactors are made of explodium for dramatic reasons, so yeah.

While the reaction would shut down, presumably you’d still have high pressure hot stuff going everywhere which is still going to be a fairly destructive bang.

Whatever is being fused plus whatever medium is extracting the heat to turn into work (like the steam that did for Chernobyl).