| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/09 21:44:40
Subject: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
With Blood Angels seemingly forever and a day away and having not made a new 40k army in 3 years thanks to the glory that is WHFB I've decided to start a new force this year, a SM chapter using the BT sprues...  ATM I'm working on the prototype model and want some help deciding on where to proceed with colours.   Scab red trim/logo/weapon casings and black robes OR Black trim/logo/weapon casings and scab red robes I bought some Vallejo shadow grey and SW grey last weekend as I thought it may look good on robes, but now I'm not so sure...
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/09 22:31:03
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
I thiiiinnnk... Red trim & black robes will work best.
|
"Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! Slayer of worlds! Felt the power throb in his weapon. He clutched it tightly in his hand and turned towards his foe letting it build in the twin energy spheres and then finally! RELEASE! The throbbing weapon ejaculated burning white fluid over them as Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! laughed manfully!" - From the epic novel, Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! Obliterates! the! Universe! coming in 2010 from the Black Library [Kid Kyoto] |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/09 22:44:31
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Silver or Gold rims and very dark red chapter markings and robes. Then the chapter mark on the dark red robes with bone. He's falling over though!
|
“Of the fabulous hydra it is said, cut off one head and two will grow in its place”
- antique proverb
LEGION of PLASTIC blog |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/10 00:14:28
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Omnipotent Lord of Change
|
Posted By migsula on 01/10/2007 3:44 AM He's falling over though! That was my first thought, was that he was precariously perched on that rock slab :| As to colors, why the brownish ink action already? Helps with red, etc? - Boss Salvage EDIT: Just realized that you aren't asking about armor color, which is apparently that nice bone that's already there. Dumb me.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/10 03:39:00
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Slippery Scout Biker
|
migsula's idea with black bolter casing.
|
Yes, there are female marines and my Sunhawks will explain it to you.
Not all of the Emperor's Children turned coat. We WILL redeem our honor. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/10 11:29:55
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
I thought of doing a DIY chapter with the same bone armor. I was going to do black cloaks and red fists. I think that would look cool.
|
"Were the band that moves in next door and your lawn dies"
--Lemmy Kilmeister |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/11 23:54:08
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Flashy Flashgitz
|
Nice ink/blending job. Go for the red trim for sure. Black would make it pop too much. I actually dig the current light sceme you have going on. Though, Migsula's idea of going gold on the trim would work. Deffinetly not silver though. It would get washed out visually in the white. The red robes would work w/ white marking. Or go for the traditional snake bite. Actually that might work better to vary the colors without changing the color values too much. And actually, I would stay away from the black bolter casing if you go for the red trim, the bolter would pop too much and contrast with the armour. Looks dope! Keep it up. What are you gunna call these guys, adn what is their badge gunna look like?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/12 04:17:22
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
Rubbish photoshop alert! That's roughly what I'd do anyway
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/12 04:52:21
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Calm Celestian
|
I personally think that a red cloak would be better. More visually striking.
However you could just stay with the bone colour and be the Emperor for 'Gladiator' I believe the colours are close and I think it would look sutiably creepy
|
"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.
Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen
Just finished my second album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptvBO4vwb-A |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/12 17:16:27
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Flashy Flashgitz
|
Well, Mandrake, just so ya know, for a moment I actually thought that that was a painted model. Shooty paint job mind you, but still real. So maybe yer photo shop kung fu isn't all that bad. Anyway, I think the black is still a lil too oppressive. still voting for red trim. Would somebody photo shop in some red so we can see what it would look like? And/or maybe some gold?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/12 17:36:06
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
Thanks for the help guys. Black trim, black weapon casings and black icons. Red Robes it is, more pics to come when I get time to paint up more...
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/12 20:08:10
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
|
Hoi! It's three days later! Why isn't this army done yet!?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/13 10:52:58
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
Because unlike other years, when I got 2 weeks holiday to sit down and paint 16 hours a day, I am now working and get 1 hour per night.
Prototype models always take heaps longer as I have to get schemes right and work out layering, washes etc.
If I go with this scheme I should be getting a model done every 2-3 hours if all goes well.
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/14 06:54:26
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
No pressure just hurry up cos people from around the world are waiting! I likey likey your mini yes. Ok, liking what you've done so far! I agree with the others on the red and gold. Do you know what colour the eyes are going to be? The eyes make a marine. NO PRESSURE.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/15 10:03:16
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter
|
 |
Tunneling Trygon
|
Red, white and black are always a good combo.
I agree with the red cloth, black trim stuff. I find the Bolt weapons tend to look best with black. Also, red cloth offers more of an opportunity for depth, layering, shading, etc.
I also agree that you probably want a metallic in there, and you probably need a few more colors to finish off your scheme. Not primary theme colors, just the detail colors that will repeat for things like grenades, eyes, purity seals, etc.
What color for chest eagles?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/20 12:47:50
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
I've progressed a bit further with the model. Need to go back and fix up any areas not quie level/within lines, and then add battle damage, but on the whole the main paint work is done.   
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/20 15:31:15
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
|
Good stuff, 'Nads. That there's Deathwing Bone. The green purity seal is kind of odd, but whatever.
|
"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/20 16:48:58
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
I also need to work out what to do for the (currently) blank shoulder guard. I was thinking keeping the basic bone/black/red theme going and doing ordinaries and charges akin to the dark angel markings with the tinctures bone as the metal (stand in for white/silver) and red and black as the colours. For those with little knowledge of heraldry terms see here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraldry
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/05 03:11:50
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
Canada
|
Wow! I love the colourscheme you've chosen. As far as heraldry goes why not a basic outline of a dragon? I think the Rackham symbol would look really cool there, although you'd have to simplify it to make it easy enough to paint.
|
"Nothing from the outside world can be imported into Canada without first being doused in ranch dressing. Canadian Techs have found that while this makes the internet delicious it tends to hamper the bandwidth potential. Scientists are working furiously to rectify the problem. "
--Glaive Company CO |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/21 06:57:53
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
Plastictrees
Amongst the Stars, In the Night
|
Nads, I hate to be a stinker, but I'm not a fan of the black shoulder trim. It's just not working for me. I do, however, really like the warm brown tones the figure has and think a more muted beastial brown trim would look a lot better. Same with the robe, perhaps a more saddle red color? The weapons, however, look fine, and as I said, the rest of the color scheme looks great. Good to see you've found time to get back into things, even if it means we won't be seeing the Waaagh Gonads army of the month!
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/21 10:35:40
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 21/01/07)
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
I'm also not quite "feeling" the colour scheme. It's nice, but something's not quite right with it. I've put together two more of my photoshops, to see if they might look any better. If that is of course, you feel that there is an issue with your own colour scheme. If you like it, that's fine. or
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/26 20:17:36
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
Worked a bit more on fiddly bits. The razor wire is GW stuff with several layers of watered down dark flesh/chaos black and watered down snake bite leather. Backpack was (obviously) painted seperately and glued on. Added 'writing' to the scrolls Now only have to do: 1. Squad markings on the shoulder pad 2. Battle damage on the armour and weapons 3. The rim of the base (Black or grey?) 4. Maybe a cross over the left eye? 5. Varnish the model 6. Flock it... Anyway here are the progress pics.    
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/29 13:48:12
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
Raging Ravener
|
what did you use for the bone effect? is it a varnish? an ink? Polyshades? i really like how it turned out.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/29 21:53:16
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
Its:
Spray white (GW spray) Skull white 2 layers thinned graveyard earth wash (stains the model and runs into the details) 3:1 Bleached bone:Graveyard earth Bleached bone 1:1 (approx Bleached bone: Skull White Skull white
Throw in 2-3 extra layers for this model but you'll get a very good approximation with much less time using the above...
|
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:295/Sold:294/Painted:197
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/30 02:48:46
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
Omnipotent Lord of Change
|
I actually like the black pad rims as they are currently, more than the red ones in the PS'd pic. The halved marine is kinda neat too, but there again I think the black rims don't work so well, mostly getting lost in the black side of the model.
So I like this tester model very much. A whole army of bone marines with red cloth would be very nice indeed. Very no-nonsense, but with the splash of blood red for crusading effect.
- Boss Salvage
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/01/30 03:49:41
Subject: RE: Need help with new SM chapter (Update 27/01/07)
|
 |
Raging Ravener
|
Thanks for the recipe! I now know how i'm going to paint my howling banshees.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|