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Nice and simple question...

In the past I've had things like plastic scouts (which when we got them were pretty disappointed IMHO), plastic accessories (mostly handled by packing more and more into sprues) and nuttin but skulls (which BWbitz and similar companies can do I guess). So now my list looks like:

1 - Harliquins with ball joints on the arms and legs
2 - Trenchcoat and gasmask IG, cause, yeah, I could use a 5th IG army.
3 - 40k staff car, something like the ones from Battle Angel Alita/Gunm by Yukito Kishiro or the ones in Miller and Darrow's Hardboiled
4 - IG command section, with all weapon options.
5 - Chaos cultists/angrymob/40 civilians/gangers (still want them, the Mongoose Megacity 1 gangs were so BAD!)

My Five kits I would buy tomorrow in plastic:

1) Current Daemonettes (alas, the new ones aren't the look I like)
2) Valkyrie
3) Elyian Drop Troops
4) Drop Pod
5) DOW Pikemen

1. Genstealer Hybrids
2. Genstealer Cultists
3. Trenchcoat, gasmask IG for traitor Genstealer cultist army
4. 40k Staff car aka Cultlimo
5. Liktor

Grenadiers
Alaitoc

1) Battle Sisters

Didn't we already have this as a survivor?

Regardless, the real question is what's so great about plastic? Everyone knows that the detail in plastic kits isn't as good as metal, despite the fact that GW's monthly ad magazine tells us (or used to, I dunno if it still does) that "the plastic moulding process is getting better and better every day".

Their new kits would suggest something to the contrary, observe for example the new chaos terminators, they make me want to throw up (and consequently, so do all the people insisting that GW move their entire operation over to plastics, what a disaster that could be)



Here's a mini from the same generation done in pewter

1) Ork Warboss (on Bike)
2) Traitor Infantry
3) Demonprince
4) Gretchins
5) Deffkoptas

There is nothing wrong with plastic as a moulding material. Take a look at any normal model vehicles, planes or soldiers.

Every other manufacturer's kits have twice the detail of GW's at half the price. GW just aren't any good at making kits yet, despite 15 years practice. Even the Chinese and the Polish beat them hands down. To think that plastic model kits were invented in the UK!

Figure that one however you like.


Right, back to the topic under discussion.

I would like the following:

Tau Tetra
A better Battlesuit model
Some add-on sprues for battlesuits, like the Commander suit upgrade and the Forge World suit bitz.
Er...
I can't think of anything else at the moment.

Pewter's great for heroes, JifL, but I'll trade some detail for affordability and poseability any day when it comes to rank and file.

Sisters of Battle zealots including models with eviscerators
Tau Barracuda
Trenchcoat guard including rough riders on cyber enhanced mounts
Kroot Knarloc riders
Traitor guard

1. Battle sisters
2. Haradim Raiders
3. Wood Elf Warriors with heavy armour
4. Mordor Trolls
5. Mordor Uruks


Runners up
Obliterators, Zoanthropes, Hive tyrants


My only problem is I don't remember the last time I was really impressed with a GW plastiv kit. I loathe the new Empire plastics. I am unimpressed with the possessed.

Dark Riders
Cold One Chariots
Elf buildings
Khand Chariots
Khand Warriors on horseback

Kilkrazy wrote:There is nothing wrong with plastic as a moulding material. Take a look at any normal model vehicles, planes or soldiers.

Every other manufacturer's kits have twice the detail of GW's at half the price. GW just aren't any good at making kits yet, despite 15 years practice. Even the Chinese and the Polish beat them hands down. To think that plastic model kits were invented in the UK!

Figure that one however you like.

I agree with that to a certain extent. I have recently ben buying a lot of Tamiya 1:35 tanks, and I am very impressed with the sprues. They seem a bit crisper and have slightly finer details. I suppose this is a combination of the sculpting and molding processes. I don't have a problem with GW vehicle kits though, they are usually fine, so this doesn't make much of a difference to me personally. However, the crews (and the 1:35 infantry sets I've looked at) are pretty awful. It's also the plastic infantry from GW that I don't like. I think that molding vehicles is very much a different kettle of fish than infantry. Yeah, Tamiya infantry are pretty much ancillary, so that may have something to do with it, but still, I don't much like a lot of plastic infantry that's being made these days, with plenty of exceptions.

Also, there's literally no mold lines on the Tamiya tank kits, which would probably strengthen your point about it being a GW problem rather than a plastic problem, but we are talking about GW kits here, so I don't want to see them producing any more plastics at the expense of metals. Also, KK does not make me want to vomit, as I implied in the other post.

Tamiya do some superb 1/48 scale vehicle kits that have a metal chassis and plastic other parts. They should fit very nicely with 28mm figures and the top is customisable being made of standard polystyrene.

I prefer metal figures for most of my wargame armies (Ancients and ACW and stuff.)

The problem with GW armies is the weight and expense, also in the Tau army everything essential is available only in plastic now anyway. Fortunately they are some of the better GW kits. (Though in general no better than Frog brand aircraft kits dating from the 1950s -- 50 years of moulding and design technology seems to have bypassed GW.)

I dunno about price. As Tortoise (an old Dakkite that you will no doubt remember) says on this thread, there's not much difference in price these days. He knows of what he speaks, and has made some good points about plastic vs metal that I agree with http://warseer.com/forums/m-p-t-general-discussion/114647-metal-vs-plastic-post2125066.html#post2125066

I agree with [Jazz is for Losers] some of the detail is lost on the plastic kits. Having said that, the Space Marine plastics and Imperial Terminator plastics are very very acceptible! When given a decent paint job they really shine!

The Chaos Terminator in the above phot looks gak, full stop!....

I can't think of any kit I would rather see done in plastic, maybe resin (ala Forgeworld) but in GW plastic form...well, they've done enough if you ask me

1. Warlock bikers - I could do with them in metal either!

2. A new form of Imperial vehicle chassis. an armoured car that could be an APC or light tank variant would be good.

3. Cadian special weapons and command (with catachan follow up would be wise).

4. A new Necron vehicle, smaller than the Monolith, a bit faster and about half the firepower, no troop 'transport' capability. They are badly in need of variety for that list. i wouldnt buy it but I think its a priority.

5. Rough riders.

i would for sure buy a

scout titan

thunderhawk gunship

and thats about it ... theres not much they dont make in plastic for marines

i would be much happier if they made a ven. dreadnought in plastic

i like plastic models more simply because in plastic GW models are still retardedly over priced... but still not as bad as a forgeworld resin kit

Leaving aside metal vs plastic for now:

1: DROP PODS!!!!
2: Dreadnought Drop Pods
3: Gargoyles (Tyranid ones)
4: Winged Tyranid Warriors/Hive Tyrant (or a Wing sprue, anyway)
5: Trygon (I can dream, cain't I? )

Viperion

Better Dark Eldar range is really all I want.
I also have to agree that a whole lot of the GW plastics lack details, but there are a few nicer ones, the CSM box comes to mind.
In general I would be in favor of more fiddly bits on all the current plastic kits.

Oblits and Greater deamons would also be pretty sweet.

So:
DE plastics
Oblits
Greater Deamons
and Chaplains

Traitor Guard, Mutants, Inquisitor Henchmen, generally evil/gothic looking stuff along the lines of the Spawn sprue with all the bits on it.

This is THE gothic sci-fi universe of our times. Represent. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a plastic Inquisitor in power armour box SOMEDAY with a nice assortment of doo-dads.

Plastic Warlocks, say a box of five. Considering they're still $12 CAN a pop I think most players would be happy with 5/$45 in whatever national denomination they happen to use, or maybe 4/$35. The minis are mostly just robes they don't have that much detail anyway. Make conversion work much much easier.

Plastic Harlies would have been nice, in the name of 'dynamic poses'.

Kraskins/Storm Troopers/Grenadiers altho I was looking at using Space Marine Scouts w/ Imperial Guard heads or non-GW heads.

That's all I myself would actually buy. Necrons could use plastic Immortals and Flayed Ones in the name of encouraging variety. Dark Eldar and Dark Elves. I'm sure just about every WHFB metal miniature could stand to be redone in plastic.

Trench coat guard

Stompa

Warboss

thats about it...

edit:
chaos havocs

chaos raptors

1. Oblitorator Cult
2. Traitor Guard (Or at least a couple of conversion kits)

Plastic lends itself better to vehicles than people kits, so:

closed-top Sentinel (e.g. Steel Legion) kit.
Plastic Exorcist, and Inquisitorial bits in general
Valkerie and/or vulture

Thanks for using my Terminator picture without permission.

The 5 on my list that i would buy tommorow if they came in affordable plastic
1.dreadnaught drop pods
2.warhound titans
3.vulture gunships
4.valkyrie transports
5.thunderhawk gunship

1. Any titan
2. Warlocks/Farseer on jetbikes
3. second the plastic multi-pose harlequins
4. noise marines (with enough to outfit all of them with blastmasters, not just 1-2)
5. Freaking Vypers with enough weapons on the sprue to outfit them in any combination offered in the codex (chin mounted shuriken cannon, this means you!)

1. HE swordmasters
2. Hive Tyrant and or Tyranid wing sprue (tyrant and warrior wings)
3. Gargoyles
4. Squigs
5. Pump Wagon

I was going to say, one advantage of plastic over metal is that you can drop it, and that's it's much lighter. The plastic dreadnaught is much better recieved than the metal one, and my spindly metal Wraithlords were a first class pain to keep assembled until I pinned them every which way.

Put me down for some kind of uber plastic Demon Prince while I'm talking.

1: Drop pods
2: Any titan
3: Trenchcoat guard ala the FW death corps
4: LATD chaos IG
5: Any and all daemon infantry (minor daemons)