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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/28 23:18:41
Subject: IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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The goal a highly competative list. I think we've got the answer here, but I want to make sure I havne't forgotten something.
Disciplines:
Drop Troops
Close Order Drill
Iron Discipline (5pts)
Veterans
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61pts Junior Officer Command Squad, banner to reroll leadership, a mortar
Elite:
116pts:10 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns
116pts:10 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns
116pts:10 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns
Troops:
55pts: Junior Officer Command Squad w/ Autocannon
55pts: Junior Officer Command Squad w/ Autocannon
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
85pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Autocannon and Plasmagun
85pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Autocannon and Plasmagun
Heavy:
150pts: Leman Russ w/ Extra Armor and Heavy Bolter
153pts: Basilisk w/ Indirect, Extra Armor, Smoke and Improved Comms (reroll for reserves)
Fast:
123pts: Hellhound w/ Smoke and Extra Armor
1500pts (on the dot) 108 models. 4 lascannons 4 autocannons, 15 plasma guns.
I was considering dropping 4 guys off one of the elite squads to add 3 more plasma guns into the army, probably one to each command squad, I was also even considering taking another 4 guys off another elite squad to add 3 more plasma guns to the command squads.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/28 23:34:39
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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Personally I think you should leave it as it is or mabye swap the Bassie for another Russ is the only inprovement I could spot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/28 23:37:24
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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I'll give you a few comments.
I have played with IG a couple of times, and have FACED them numerous times. So my perspective is mainly from an opponents point of view.
I have to say I like the army a lot.
Its got pretty much everything that I DONT like facing in an opponent's IG army! (I play Mech & Jetbike Eldar)
The only thing i'd change - on first thoughts - would be changing the Russ to another Basilisk. I simply HATE facing Bassies, and i'm not the only one.......!!
Are the three VET squads for dropping with their rapid firing plasmas behind my skimmers....?! ARG!!!
It does really look solid, also vs Tau or MEQ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/28 23:39:23
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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and.... OMG it's only 1500pts!!! It looks as hard (or harder!) than the 1850pts Guard armies i face regurlarly...! Brutal!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 04:29:30
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If your Vets are going to Deep Strike they should only be 5 models strong. Ten T3 5+ armor save models will die just as easily as five, might as well keep them cheap.
I don't foresee your single Russ and single Hellhound surviving very long. All opposing Lascannons will be trained at the one Russ, all opposing Autocannons will be trained at the 'hound. I'd go 2 Russ, 1 Bassie or 2 Bassie, 2-3 Hellhounds for vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 16:16:47
Subject: IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Unbalanced Fanatic
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I'd make one of the deep striking squads have meltas to hit harder targets. Sometimes it is hard to land behind something
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The 21st century will have a number of great cities. You’ll choose between cities of great population density and those that are like series of islands in the forest. - Bernard Tschumi |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 16:29:00
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Minor point, but I believe Iron Discipline is +5 points per officer, so you would need to find another 10 pts. to bring the doctrine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 17:34:08
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Good catch, I did misinterpret iron dicispline. After feilding the mortar a few games I'll drop it in favor of giving all command squads iron discipline.
A Leman Russ sitting in a forest does a reasonable job of attracting lascannon fire and not getting hurt too bad. I'll play differently if I face another IG army vs SAFH vs Eldar vs Nids. In my last game the Russ died to a melta gun on turn 4, and the hellhound entered my opponents deployment zone (Recon mission) on turn 5. Both vehicles were close to each other. And my bassie died on turn 6. The previous game, none of my vehicles were damaged. I have no problems hiding all my vehicles until turn 4 if I have to. At 1500pts ones gotta make a decision about what you can and can not cover. So this is where I leave bases uncovered.
Melta weapons are a good idea. I'm thinking of reducing one vet squad to 6 men, and upgrading a command section to having 3 meltas. I think that'll leave me with enough points for a bolter in each command squad, maybe there is an option for a storm bolter? I'll have a look at the codex tonight. Thanks! Are storm bolters for 5pts an option for junior officers in the command squads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 17:42:23
Subject: Revised the List, how does it compare to the original list?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Revised the list, how does it compare to the original list?
Disciplines:
Drop Troops
Close Order Drill
Iron Discipline (see below)
Veterans
HQ:
56pts Junior Officer Command Squad, banner to reroll leadership, Iron Discipline
Elite:
100pts:8 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns (for deepstriking)
116pts:10 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns (for infiltration)
116pts:10 Vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns (redundancy so either infiltrate or deepstrike)
Troops:
60pts: Junior Officer Command Squad w/ Autocannon, Iron Discipline
75pts: Junior Officer Command Squad w/ Meltax3 (for deep striking), Iron Discipline
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
95pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Lascannon and Plasmagun
85pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Autocannon and Plasmagun
85pts: 10 guardsmen w/ Autocannon and Plasmagun
Heavy:
150pts: Leman Russ w/ Extra Armor and Heavy Bolter
153pts: Basilisk w/ Indirect, Extra Armor, Smoke and Improved Comms (reroll for reserves)
Fast:
123pts: Hellhound w/ Smoke and Extra Armor
1499pts 106 models. 4 lascannons 3 autocannons, 15 plasma guns, 3 melta guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/29 17:44:23
Subject: Re:IG for the tournies, 1500pts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I believe they can indeed get the 5 pt. storm bolter-I've certainly seen others play officers/stormtrooper lts. with them. It is pretty good for the points-it can also work quite nicely with a few grenade launchers thrown in. 21 pts. 2 S4 AP5 shots and 2 S6 AP4 shots that can move and fire 24" is not too bad if you have the points for it.
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