Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Warhammer Online for $25.98 and free shipping.

Not too shabby!

Already got a copy in our house though!

Wow, that'a pretty danged good, especially since it includes the free month of play in there as well.

This coincides with Blizzards release of that Liche King expansion... Hmm.

Not entirely surprising, since you put it that way.

And of course, if I want to chin Nagash, I'll play Warhammer, rather than a fairly weak rip off. That, and I despise Gnomes and their stupid Robotic Chickens. I mean, who thought they were good ideas?

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And of course, if I want to chin Sauron, I'll play Lord of the Rings rather than a... ...rip off.

Fixt!

Shut your noise you!

Sauron isn't Nagash. And Nagash didn't make a ring..erm...other than possibly the Carstein Ring.

George Spiggott wrote:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And of course, if I want to chin Sauron, I'll play Lord of the Rings rather than a... ...rip off.

Fixt!

Too funny! And True!

Never been into MMORPG's but I've heard good things about both Warhammer Online & WoW. If I ever get laid off (not likely but you never know) I'll be sure to pick one up for the couple months of free time I'd have.

George Spiggott wrote:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And of course, if I want to chin Sauron, I'll play Lord of the Rings rather than a... ...rip off.

Fixt!

It is best not to go there, since Tolkien stole most of his stuff from others too.

temprus wrote:It is best not to go there, since Tolkien stole most of his stuff from others too.

Who was the template for Sauron then? I bet he's not as close as Nagash is to Sauron.

I think its best if we dont go there m8

Tolkien was madly in love with ancient languages and old folklore..now i havn't read what he had so i cant tell you who was the template
for Sauron and i doubt theres only one source for him.

So yeah dont go there

Brightdarkness wrote:I think its best if we dont go there m8...

So nobody knows then. It would therefore be acceptable for me to say that Tolkien's characters are all original concepts he invented himself. Oops, I appear to have gone there.

Yes you are correct Tolkien made everything in fantasy including:
- hobbits ( Halfling rip-offs whose possible origin for the word derives from the Scots word hauflin. Or as some say Tolkien's very own inverted gnomes, since personalities are the same as are most of their traits accept the old wrinkly look.)
- gnomes ( Paracelsus includes gnomes in his list of elementals, as earth elementals back in ancient greek times.)
- elves ( Germanic mythical creatures. From the Old Norse ælf or álfr.)
- dwarves (Again from Germanic mythical creatures possibly brought on by misunderstanding of the dwarfism disease in ancient times.)

The list goes on and on and on. As does the characterizations in the book. Most borrowed from these very same myths although the human archytpes are drawn from a widder source. What tolkien is credited for isn't coming up with all of these stories and ideas, but simply making them popular again and exposing them to a new generation of people on a wider scope. A huge merit on its own.

Still resisting the urge to buy this.
If I do I'll never get any painting done.
Diablo 2 just ate 3 months of my hobby time....

Diablo 2 ate months of my hobby time too...






8 years ago when it first came out!!

Seriously, between Gear 2 and L4D I don't know how I'm going to paint my Adepticon armies. Right now I'm finishing up Mass Effect so at least I can paint through all the freakin dialogue.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Strimen wrote:Yes you are correct Tolkien made everything in fantasy including...

Nice strawman there pal. Once again I'm looking for characters Tolkein based heavily upon mythical characters as closely as Nagash is based upon Sauron and if you can a mythical origin for the Sauron character. Come on people it's not that hard I've thought of one already... no wait, two.

I'm in for one... though I have not been able to find an MMO that I could like since Asheron's Call. None of them have been able to catch me the way that one did.

George Spiggott wrote:

Strimen wrote:Yes you are correct Tolkien made everything in fantasy including...

Nice strawman there pal. Once again I'm looking for characters Tolkein based heavily upon mythical characters as closely as Nagash is based upon Sauron and if you can a mythical origin for the Sauron character.

Satan

Sorry ahtman - Morgoth was based on Satan.

Sauron was one of Morgoth's lieutenants who escaped the destruction of Angband and then hung around like a bad smell for the next 6000 years....

Oh you are making that up. I saw the movies and there was no one named Morgoth. Harumph.

Morgoth?... Thought it was melkor.

Indeed it was.

He was called Melkor as one of the Ainur. When the 12 most powerful Ainur (of whom he was one) became the Valar and took up guardianship of Earth, he changed his name to Morgoth.

I have never been able to make it through the Silmarillion... not for a lack of trying... 4 times now. All the refference works I have read keep his name consistent as Melkor when referring to him. I'm not quite sure what it is about that book that I just can not get through it.

Don't worry - I'm one of those people that picks up LOTR at least once a year and reads it cover to cover - and I've only ever made it through the Silmarillion once. I had to tidy every other book in the house away to stop me from picking up something else until it was finished.




Now it keeps staring at me from the shelf and daring me to try again....

Heh, you an Amazon affiliate by any chance?

If you are asking me since I posted it originally, no. I saw someone else post it and did my Dakka duty and shared news of money saving deals.

Only kidding mate