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this would be my first time selling something virtual , in person too (craigslist)
my world of warcraft account.

any suggestions what i need to do?
-bring all the original cd, and the cd keys.

-make sure i never touch that account again / uninstall etc etc.

what else can i do to help garuntee something virtual goes through?
the buyer is worried that i might revoke the account through GM

i know i wont do that, but is there something adamant i can do to help ease
the doubt for the buyer?

My question is, what sort of douchebag would buy such a thing? Aren't gold-selling/farming and powerlevelling universally reviled? What's the point of playing a game if you're going to skip over building your character's history. If you're so bored with a game that you can't stand starting another character from scratch, you should move on to something different.

Please lets be constructive in our help rather than attack his buyers.

Never played WOW so can't help with what I'd be looking for but have you checked out ebay for what others are listing?

You could always sign something, a little impromptu contract.

I sold my account on ebay, got me 400$. I was happy. but that was a long time ago, in the long off year of 2006.

warpcrafter wrote:My question is, what sort of douchebag would buy such a thing? Aren't gold-selling/farming and powerlevelling universally reviled? What's the point of playing a game if you're going to skip over building your character's history. If you're so bored with a game that you can't stand starting another character from scratch, you should move on to something different.

to tell the truth im not bored of it at all... its quite the opposite, i spend too much time on it.
if i just leave it aside , i'll be tempted to play it, re install it again etc etc.

was going to sell it for w/e i can get for it and buy some new GW foundation paint i keept hearing praises about.

the best thing to do if you are unsure is contact ebay members that sell virtual things and ask them for advice, im sure someone out there will be willing to give you a few pointers and such

Take cash and POSTAL money orders ONLY. Every other form of payment is way too easy to forge.

NEVER take paypal for the sale of virtual goods. The buyer can instantly get their money back for good not delivered and you will have no grounds for a dispute.

I made over 3,000 USD selling my gear and money in FF11 years ago. If you take precautions with payment source you'll be fine.

Linkdead wrote:Take cash and POSTAL money orders ONLY. Every other form of payment is way too easy to forge.

NEVER take paypal for the sale of virtual goods. The buyer can instantly get their money back for good not delivered and you will have no grounds for a dispute.

I made over 3,000 USD selling my gear and money in FF11 years ago. If you take precautions with payment source you'll be fine.

oh god >< if i only i read your post earlier.

the person sent me payment viapaypal
i saw the payment in account and told him my account / password.
10 mins later i saw the message of ( Unauthorized payment , dispute ) pop up.

i knew i was scammed....

i dont know what to think atm.... i really dont.

its just... with ebay / paypal i have done it so many times that

i over looked the Virtual Goods part lindead mentioned.

im so dumb seriousely....

That really sucks.

My condolences, seriously.

Report the new guy to the game company for having stolen your password.

Technically he has stolen it since he never paid for it.

The game company knows who used to control the account.

Don't tell them you sold it to him unless the End User Licence Agreement allows you to sell accounts.

The thing is you may get the account back and find he has transferred away all the gold and items.

just change your password?
chances are all you stuff is gone though.
you might be able to contact blizzard and tell them he hacked your account but i am not sure how that will turn out.

the original owner of the game always has the upper hand because it is his info that blizzard has for account verification.

Well, good thing you only got scammed for a virtual good and not anything real. It's not like you really lost anything so consider yourself lucky.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

As the others say, you were "hacked" by a password stealer, so take your account back!!!

That said, if you sell stuff, don't take PayPal. Craigslist is cash on the barrel. Nothing else will do.

Ozymandias wrote:Well, good thing you only got scammed for a virtual good and not anything real. It's not like you really lost anything so consider yourself lucky.

Oh, that's good then.
I thought it was a bunch of Paypal money stolen or something.

Still, it's something virtual that has value. The money in my bank account isn't material, but it's worth something.



Anyways, you need to get some proppa Space Orks.
None of those politically corrects "orcs" that are having their native-american ripoff culture being threatened. :S

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Well, good thing you only got scammed for a virtual good and not anything real. It's not like you really lost anything so consider yourself lucky.

Oh, that's good then.
I thought it was a bunch of Paypal money stolen or something.

Still, it's something virtual that has value. The money in my bank account isn't material, but it's worth something.



Anyways, you need to get some proppa Space Orks.
None of those politically corrects "orcs" that are having their native-american ripoff culture being threatened. :S

the scammer depositted money into my paypal account.
i saw the payment and gave him the password ( gave him my game account )
moments later he filed ( un authorized payment case ) basically paypal is letting him
take the paid money back.

so yes i lost my game account ( nothing real, but just alot of my time spent on it )

You can get it back. You just have to tell the GM on your server about what happened. He got your password and got into your account. Even if he sharded everything you have you can have GMs get it all back as long as it's within a month or so.

now he sent me emails regarding filing FBI case on me o_-
im scared to open the email if it has viruses.

are there any thing in hotmail that can check for virus in my mail?

./cackle. FBI cases for selling passwords to computer games? This isn't Japan. Get in contact with Blizzard, the GM on the server, and forward the emails to their contact. He is just trying to scare you. This will backfire on him horribly if you let them know about it.

Aye, not only will they return your account, if he has his own he risks being labbeled a gold scammer and they will cancel his as well.

Really do as others have suggested, tell a GM that you account has been hacked and PW stolen, he won't have the in game codes from your box so will have a real hard job proving otherise. I also think he'd be an idiot if he raised Paypal evidence as it would prove he did indeed recieve the goods in question and was scamming you.

Although even if the worst happens and they ban your account because you tried to sell it, at least you will have the satisfaction he hasn't nabbed it all for free. Oh and aye, this is the worst that can happen to you in this case.

FBI thing is utter rubbish.

LunaHound wrote:filing FBI case

What's wrong with you?

Why are you waiting to get your account back?

Take the account back *NOW*!!!

JohnHwangDD wrote:What's wrong with you?

Why are you waiting to get your account back?

Take the account back *NOW*!!!

honestly im ok without it because i did quit the game. but i just want the satisfaction of seeing the
scammer get in trouble.

now abit of good news.

2008/12/17 08:03 NEW WESTMINSTER, BC Item out for delivery <-- my xmas package should be here today!

*edit now im depressed again, the package is missing paint ;_; so much for painting during holidays.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Aye, not only will they return your account, if he has his own he risks being labbeled a gold scammer and they will cancel his as well.

Really do as others have suggested, tell a GM that you account has been hacked and PW stolen, he won't have the in game codes from your box so will have a real hard job proving otherise. I also think he'd be an idiot if he raised Paypal evidence as it would prove he did indeed recieve the goods in question and was scamming you.

Although even if the worst happens and they ban your account because you tried to sell it, at least you will have the satisfaction he hasn't nabbed it all for free. Oh and aye, this is the worst that can happen to you in this case.

FBI thing is utter rubbish.

The FBI have a general rule not to touch a wire fraud worth under $1 million.

Not to mention, how is this guy going to get you prosecuted for him not paying you for the goods?

LunaHound wrote:now he sent me emails regarding filing FBI case on me o_-

Then tell him you'll send Keyser Söze after him. It's just as likely as him calling the FBI. My condolences. I hope everything works out for the better.

I thought selling gamer accounts was a violation of the Terms of Service? If so, reporting that he took it will at least deny him your account, if you can't get it back.

I think the overall lesson is this: when conducting illicit trade, cash only please!

I'm pretty certain selling your WOW account is a violation of the WOW EULA, but people do it all the time.

Since he tried to scam you, I would simply have contacted Blizzard and told them someone Phished your account name/password and you would like them re-establish your account.

If you still have the orginal CD Key it will prove you are the rightfull owner.

If you've waited too long, your virtual stuff may be gone, but at least you can have the personal satisfaction of getting your acocunt back. They might even ban his IP address.

Luna Hound: Don't let yourself get punked. Crush this guy, report him. Even if you violated EULA (she doesn't really mind unless you bring a LOT of friends!), make sure he doesn't get you stuff. That's just wrong. Let him get away with this, and you will do it next time. And next. Do it for you, dude.