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"This is a goodbye kiss, you dog" shouted the journalist as he hurled two shoes at the head of Bush.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/bush-visits-iraq-for-fina_n_150832.html

"Who throws a show...honestly, you fight like a woman."

Nice little duck by the Pres. though. He must have been one of the kids that got picked first in dodge ball.

Severeal heads will be rolling amongst the secret service detail.
The journalist got off 2 shoes before he was tackled by other journalists.
The first secret service agent didn't leap into view until after the shoes had been thrown.

What if the shoes had been bananas?

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Severeal heads will be rolling amongst the secret service detail.
The journalist got off 2 shoes before he was tackled by other journalists.
The first secret service agent didn't leap into view until after the shoes had been thrown.

What if the shoes had been bananas?

Bush would have caught them,scamperd to the highest available point and had lunch.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Severeal heads will be rolling amongst the secret service detail.
The journalist got off 2 shoes before he was tackled by other journalists.
The first secret service agent didn't leap into view until after the shoes had been thrown.

I don't blame anyone for not defending him, I think everyone but the staunchest of republicans want to see him get his too.

For all my distaste for his administration I've gotta say that I view Bush the man as more of a tragic figure than anything else. He's just a dude that got in over his head, and ended up as the political puppet of the Neocon jabberwocky.

It sets a bad example, lame duck president or not.

If the secret service couldn't be arsed to defend the leader, why should anyone be arsed to defend the US?

He gets a secret service detail even after he leaves office.

So the Bush spokeswoman Dana Perino reportedly has a black eye as a result of being struck by a micro-phone at a press conference melee. F(&$ing hilarious. Some Iraqis are sure showing a lack of gratitude towards their benevolent overlords.

Yah, the lack of security is terrible...I'm suprised it was allowed to go on as long as it did. Really, they should have seen something was up long before he actually threw the shoes.

Bush moved pretty darn fast for someone his age.

Having watched the video again I don't really see the lack of security. Its pretty much impossible to respond any faster than the 3-4 second delay seen on the tape. And it isn't like they could have reasonably caught him before hand. I mean really, the dude was armed with shoes, not hand grenades.

Remember that in that part of the world even showing someone the soles of your feet is very disrespectful. There's a reason they beat the statues of Saddam Hussein with their shoes...

dogma wrote:Having watched the video again I don't really see the lack of security. Its pretty much impossible to respond any faster than the 3-4 second delay seen on the tape. And it isn't like they could have reasonably caught him before hand. I mean really, the dude was armed with shoes, not hand grenades.

Well, what if it had been a weapon of some sort. They should probably have been moving as soon as they noticed something out of the ordinary, like some guy taking off his shoes.

Then the President would be dead. They probably were already moving when they saw him taking off his shoes. That is assuming they indeed saw him taking off his shoes. The only way to really prevent assassinations is to keep weapons out of a controlled perimeter. After that its almost completely about luck.

Sometimes I guess there just aren't enough shoes.

dogma wrote:Then the President would be dead. They probably were already moving when they saw him taking off his shoes. That is assuming they indeed saw him taking off his shoes. The only way to really prevent assassinations is to keep weapons out of a controlled perimeter. After that its almost completely about luck.

Well, I guess you know everything Dogma. You're an expert in science, theology, and what, national security now?

I think it was funny how that one Iraqi guy ( I'm presuming he was Iraqi, I really don't know ) jumped in front of that guy and put his guard up. That dude was ready to go to town.

Another foot-in-mouth incident.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Another foot-in-mouth incident.

boom boom ching!

Grignard wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Another foot-in-mouth incident.

boom boom ching!

What a g-g-great audience.

This is what the secret service does for an ex-president (at the time he was no longer in office).

The quote from the journalist is straight out of a John Woo or Tarantino movie. "Here's a goodbye kiss you dog!"

I admire the spirit of the protest but not the form (both vs. Bush and Reagan)

I only recently saw Steal this Movie! and I thought, "I turned 30 this year, what
have I done to change the world?"

Sad.

Gotta admit, Bush showed some great reflexes. Looks kinda like he is grining at the guy by the time he gets around to winging the second shoe at him.

Grignard wrote:
Well, I guess you know everything Dogma. You're an expert in science, theology, and what, national security now?

I don't think I've ever tried to give myself that kind of credit. I stated an opinion of which I am fairly confident, I don't see how that is offensive.

Why did the guy blame the US president for all the "widows and orphans"? Last I checked, it was his Muslim brothers killing indiscriminately with roadside bombs, suicide attacks, etc.

Gen. Lee Losing wrote:Why did the guy blame the US president for all the "widows and orphans"? Last I checked, it was his Muslim brothers killing indiscriminately with roadside bombs, suicide attacks, etc.

Eh, I'd say it is both. Unfortunately no matter how much care you take, there are going to be non combatants at risk in a war zone.

dogma wrote:

Grignard wrote:
Well, I guess you know everything Dogma. You're an expert in science, theology, and what, national security now?

I don't think I've ever tried to give myself that kind of credit. I stated an opinion of which I am fairly confident, I don't see how that is offensive.

Never said it offended me. Just an observation.

How much do the secret service guys amke anyway then ? I assume some form of performance related pay is optimistic ?

Once read that the president is watched even when in bed/asleep at the whitehouse from behind a giant two way mirror, the guards "turning away" at their discretion if things get..... y'know ..in there.

Thanks Dakka ! The source of my up to date American knowledge !

This shows Bush is neither a true Texan or from east of 405 in LA.

**True Texan would have walked over and beat him like a drum.

**True Angelino from east of the 405 would have just busted a cap in his .


Edit: I wonder if the press had to pass through a metal detector. I wouldn't be surprised. Thats how AlQaeda got the head of what would be called the Northern Alliance just prior to 9/11 in Afghanistan.

Gen. Lee Losing wrote:Why did the guy blame the US president for all the "widows and orphans"? Last I checked, it was his Muslim brothers killing indiscriminately with roadside bombs, suicide attacks, etc.

Well, he probably thinks otherwise. Given no-one was killing anyone before Bush decided they had to invade, he might have a point.

Anyway, I kind of wish he'd gotten a better hit in. Not because I really care if Bush gets hit by a shoe or not, but this guy isn't going to be seeing daylight for quite a while. Seems a shame to go to jail for missing.

Lucky it wasn't that Richard Reid fella I guess.

Meanwhile, having watched this I'm left wondering if perhaps the dog has been running things for the last few years, in a kind of "son of sam" type fashion. It would explain a lot.