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Just wondering if anyone else has looked at the scale figures from the Apocalypse rules.

Thought it was a bit off/odd so did a size comparrison.

With the man standing next to the titan being 28mm, a Warlord should be about 44cm tall (18 inches) and a Warhound should be 19cm (8 inches).

The Forgeworld ones are certainly taller than this and the scratch build Warlords I have seen are about 3' high.

Comments?

Titans and starships in 40k have really difficult to guage scales. It changes wildly depending on artist/author.

Yeah - the first or second Horus novell had an Imperator Titan at 47 meters.

This sounds like the right scale for the above - it puts the figure at about 30 inches (based upon the average height of 1.75m = 28mm). Certainly not the 6 foot monstrosity that is the only 40K scale Imperator that I've seen!

;-)

Forgeworld look like they upscale by about 50% of what the book says (a warhound Titan is 10.5 inches, a Reaver is about 17 inches).

Cheers

I personally built my warlord to be about 19 inches tall. This was mainly to make it fit in with my Armorcast titans. I mean really, if the Warhound is 3 structure points, and the Reaver is 6, then the Warlord's 9 structure points mean it can't be that much larger.

If anyone has the Titan Scale Document Biasi put out a few years back, this might be a good place to put it.

The gist of it is that it really depends on what source within the GW fluff you are taking your data from. I think some of the original material from the old battle titans game had Imperators around 250 meters or some such. It was a mountain with feet and guns. All the basic titan chassis have had tremendous variance in the different written sources. There appears ot be no real true "one" font of knowledge to draw from.

About the only thing I could reall suggest is measuring out some of the old Epic scale models. This will give you a greater degree of "accuracy" than other methods IMHO, since a physical representation has more weight (no pun intended) in my book than the highly varied written words of various writers of books and rules over the last 10-20 years. Oh, wait, that holds little water since GW has been known to have a lot of fun with scales. Sigh, what to do?

Just make a call and go with it. Scaling upward using structure points sounds like as reasonable an idea as any other.

Ahhh

This guy:

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=87673

has gone to extreme lengths on the subject - and come to the conclusion that the the figures I quoted from the Apocalypse sizing is in fact correct (30 meters or 18-19 inches for a 28mm scale figure).

Makes for an interesting read!

So - forgeworld, whilst cool is of a considerably larger scale than would otherwise be correct.