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technically speaking, can it? Why or Why not?

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No, plain in simple it is made for only the human body and therefore weakling xenos bodys cant support it

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Not a chance. If they can't make it work on half the human population (women) and can't make it work on men over a certain age there isn't a hope in hell they're gonna make it work on something like an Ork.
   
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For what we know most xenos have radically different biologies,so my answer is a big NO.
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Nope, Genetics. To clarify, there's even large sections of the young male human population that are geneticly incompatable with the geneseed.

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I think that about covers it. For now. 
   
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i remember reading that humans/eldar could interbreed, so possibly, i stres possibly, a half human/half eldar could
   
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SonofTerra wrote:i remember reading that humans/eldar could interbreed, so possibly, i stres possibly, a half human/half eldar could
That was a Slashfic by C.S. Goto and not cannon.

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Which gem was this from? Warrior Coven?

Also (entirely sincere here) canon by what standard?

   
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Manchu wrote:Which gem was this from? Warrior Coven?

Also (entirely sincere here) canon by what standard?
Not cannon because it is Goto.

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Fair enough.

   
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Gwar is 100% right on that one. He's also a theiving plagiarist.

   
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whatwhat wrote:Gwar is 100% right on that one. He's also a theiving plagiarist.
I hope your use of the Pronoun is directed at Goto cause otherwise it's time to throw down!

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SonofTerra wrote:i remember reading that humans/eldar could interbreed, so possibly, i stres possibly, a half human/half eldar could


You remember right. That's straight from the Holy Book, aka Rogue Trader. Page 177 to be precise. ;-)

Not that the High Lords of Terra would sanction making a hybrid a marine - or any remotely traditional Marine chapter would try it.

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SonofTerra wrote:i remember reading that humans/eldar could interbreed, so possibly, i stres possibly, a half human/half eldar could


You remember right. That's straight from the Holy Book, aka Rogue Trader. Page 177 to be precise. ;-)

Not that the High Lords of Terra would sanction making a hybrid a marine - or any remotely traditional Marine chapter would try it.
The Holy book also says the Ultramarines are 3rd founding and Leman Russ is a Guard Sergeant. I'd just ignore a lot of it tbh.

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Well....what about Tyranids! Now, they wouldn't necessarily be Space Marines per se, however, they would definately absorb the geneseed of the Marines they killed!

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Delephont wrote:Well....what about Tyranids! Now, they wouldn't necessarily be Space Marines per se, however, they would definately absorb the geneseed of the Marines they killed!
They absorb the Genetic Material, break it down, and reuse it. It's actually theorised that Space Marine DNA was used to make Tyrant Guard (or Warriors, can't find my old Nid Codex)

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What about koot? Can the shapers absorb the DNA from the enemies they kill/eat?

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Delephont wrote:Well....what about Tyranids! Now, they wouldn't necessarily be Space Marines per se, however, they would definately absorb the geneseed of the Marines they killed!

Tyranid + marine DNA = old school tyrant guard.

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Wasn't there a half human half eldar ultrasmurf in RT?

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The SM geneseed was made specifically ofr human DNA. If the Emperor had gathered some aliens and studied their DNA, he could have developed SM geneseed for, say, and Eldar male. But he wouldn't want to. it would be silly.

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Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.


Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
 
   
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From a purely biological point of view, Xenos immune systems would attack the geneseed as their body would see it as a foreign invader.

Also, with some clever hormone therapy you could probably get it to work on women, but they would end up looking like the blokes anyway The reason that it doesn't work on women is that their bodies don't produce the same hormones as men (which is actually untrue, they just don't produce as much) so if you injected them with the right amount at the right time you could artificially trigger the responses from the geneseed.

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Grim.Badger wrote:From a purely biological point of view, Xenos immune systems would attack the geneseed as their body would see it as a foreign invader.

Also, with some clever hormone therapy you could probably get it to work on women, but they would end up looking like the blokes anyway The reason that it doesn't work on women is that their bodies don't produce the same hormones as men (which is actually untrue, they just don't produce as much) so if you injected them with the right amount at the right time you could artificially trigger the responses from the geneseed.

That's what I was thinking with the SOB's. But if you have some "clever" xenos that can manlipuate DNA (e.g. 'nids) they can make the geneseed work for them or even improve on it.

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A huge percentige of the human hosts die, Xenos would drop like flys.

They evolved on different planets so their biology would be completly differnt. You've got a better chance of it working on a Cat.

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Obviously it would work fine on Kroot and Nids. In fact, those species would be able to screen the geneseed, select only the characteristics they wanted, and pass them on to their children as part of their own genotype. The children would not need implantation of geneseed, they would grow it themselves.

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