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I got thinking... The various gods exist because of the belief in them from lesser beings. The more powerful gods have huge numbers of followers and actually interact with each other, similar to how the Greek Gods did on Mt. Olympus (like when Gork and Mork attack the skull throne). The 'God' Emperor has more followers than any of the other gods in the universe, so he has plenty of power, but why isn't he interacting w the other gods? Is there a fundamental I'm missing?

He is interacting, but in the Warp. Physically, he's a vegetable on life support.

he has this other form in the warp and battles stuff

Well he is pretty much giving Late luke skywalker a run for his money for Space Jesus.

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:he has this other form in the warp and battles stuff

Yup.

They say if he dies that every human in the universe becomes a big opening in the material realm for daemons.

Hey, I knew that!

Since he was nearly killed by an ork I think the prowess of the emperor is exaggerated through 10k years of Chinese whispers.

According to the eye of terror novel after he dies Emperor will battle and destroy chaos gods and cause galaxy to fight last bloody war or rhana dadra eldar prophecy.This is the result of 10000 years of worship.When you worship someone your soul becomes part of it after your death and the "god" becomes more powerful.


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Shaman wrote:Since he was nearly killed by an ork I think the prowess of the emperor is exaggerated through 10k years of Chinese whispers.

The ork was struggling to choke to Emperor,but the ork would be killed by the Emperor's psychic attacks even if the Horus haven't interfered.I have always wondered why the Emperor couldn't just parry Horus's attacks and I know that he wouldn't harmed Horus because he thought that he could be saved,but whit his powers the Emperor could parry Horus's attacks.

He is Chuck Norris
He's just that godly.

Well, I believe Gork and Mork are supposed to be the most powerful gods, but they've never seriously attempted to destroy another god. Because hey, they're orks. If they killed all the other gods dead, there'd be no-one left to fight!

Dat'z long-range plannin', dat iz.

Gork and Mork should pay a visit to Slaneesh. The guy's a genius tactician man!

IvanTih wrote:According to the eye of terror novel after he dies Emperor will battle and destroy chaos gods and cause galaxy to fight last bloody war or rhana dadra eldar prophecy.This is the result of 10000 years of worship.When you worship someone your soul becomes part of it after your death and the "god" becomes more powerful.


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Shaman wrote:Since he was nearly killed by an ork I think the prowess of the emperor is exaggerated through 10k years of Chinese whispers.

The ork was struggling to choke to Emperor,but the ork would be killed by the Emperor's psychic attacks even if the Horus haven't interfered.I have always wondered why the Emperor couldn't just parry Horus's attacks and I know that he wouldn't harmed Horus because he thought that he could be saved,but whit his powers the Emperor could parry Horus's attacks.

Yes, but during that battle Horus had all four major chaos gods channeling power into him. Afterall, they all wanted the Emperor dead, and Horus had by far the best chance of pulling that off, and he was a worshiper of Chaos Undivided in the first place. Converting almost 9 full legions of space marines to the side of chaos probably gets you quite a power boost.

I think he is a dude sitting on a big chair.

"The various gods exist because of the belief in them from lesser beings"

no this is terry pratchett

chaos gods exist cuz of human/xenos emotions reflections in the now unstable warp

other gods exist due to them being old ones/debated super psychics

Basically, in the material realm (before he became a vegetable) he was a god among men, he was actually probably the only god that interacted with mortals with a material form. Now that he is useless vegetable, he basicallly fights every threat to humanity through the warp

As I see it, a "god" in this case is a psychic being that has a reflection in the warp, or is just a really powerful warp being. Some gods (Gork, Mork) seem to be reflections of races, but in this case I guess all orks count as being psychic. So if you have a form in the warp and can do stuff there, I think you get to be called a god. So, I guess psykers are minigods.

Old Ones, are not warp being. They existed in the matieral realm, had long lives and god-like powers. In the necron codex, it mentions the Necrons were jealous of the Old Ones long lives. Gods dont die fools

The chaos gods, are created from emotion, there no more evil then humans or xenos are.

You can see each god in a good light:

Khorne; a man protecting him family in a bloodthirsty rage.

Nurgle; natural selection.

Slaanesh; Stripper of the future.

Tzeench; people who like to plan alot.

Lord-Loss wrote:Old Ones, are not warp being. They existed in the matieral realm, had long lives and god-like powers. In the necron codex, it mentions the Necrons were jealous of the Old Ones long lives. Gods dont die fools

The chaos gods, are created from emotion, there no more evil then humans or xenos are.

You can see each god in a good light:

Khorne; a man protecting him family in a bloodthirsty rage.

Nurgle; natural selection.

Slaanesh; Stripper of the future.

Tzeench; people who like to plan alot.

The Chaos powers are all created by negative emotions. There is no good in them. They are essentially reflections of the darker nature of all sentient beings.

MOMUS wrote:"The various gods exist because of the belief in them from lesser beings"

no this is terry pratchett

chaos gods exist cuz of human/xenos emotions reflections in the now unstable warp

other gods exist due to them being old ones/debated super psychics

Its also cannon for Fantasy, that all gods are akin to chaos gods, in that they exist only because of worship. Its that revalation that drove Archeon insane.

whats the source on that sniper, cause I love to read about it?

Turbo10k wrote:Gork and Mork should pay a visit to Slaneesh. The guy's a genius tacticiCREEEEEEEEEEEED!an man!

Fixed

thought this was 40k only

anways is that in the new WOC book?

Ok, let me see if I get this right... 'Godlike' beings come in two forms, beings existing due to worship or emotion through the warp, and these super epics known as the Old Ones who do NOT exist in the warp, but instead the real realm, but haven't been heard from in a really long time. The emperor was just a super human but when he sudo-died he became an essence living in the warp, and therefor able to interact with the warp gods like the lords of chaos. Yes? No?

Anything too advanced technologically can be considered as magic!

Lasers to a 15th century peasant: The devil's work!

Emperor's psychic powers to average SM conscript: Godlike!

I think he is the most powerful prankster in the universe!

EDIT:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind

Read "Rise of the Emperor" and "Transcendence". That explains it alot better.