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Ok, so I had a game on VASSAL, trying out Space Marine bikers.
I got a game going (at 5.30AM) with a fellow dakka-member, lowmanjason, using his necrons.The lists where:
Necrons:

Necron Lord, Resurrection Orb, Veil of Darkness, Warscythe: 210p
Necron Lord, Destroyer Body, Gaze of Flame, Phylactery, Resurrection Orb: 200p
4x10 Necron Warriors: 4x180p
5 Destroyers: 250pts
2x3 Wraiths: 2x123pts
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130pts
Monolith - 235pts

Space Marines:

Captain, Storm Shield, Relic Blade, Artificer Armour, Hellfire Rounds, Digital Weapons: 215p
Librarian on Bike, Null Zone, Avenger: 135p
8 Bikers, 2 Meltas, Power Fist, Multi-Melta Attack Bike: 310p
8 Bikers, 2 Meltas, Power Fist, Heavy Bolter Attack Bike: 300p
8 Bikers, 2 Flamers, Power Fist, Heavy Bolter Attack Bike: 290p
3x3 Multi Melta Bikes: 3x150p
3 Thunderfire Cannons: 300p

This is a list I’ve wanted to test out. The only reason that my Captain is so “fat” is because I had 35 points left so I put them on him.

The board was rather simple; in the bottom left and top right corner there was a ruin, a hill stretched out on the left side. There was an impassable building in the middle of the bottom deployment zone, aswell as a trench next to it. Finally there was an obstacle roughly in the middle.
Rather open, but I don’t mind.

We rolled for mission and got Capture and Control, deployment was spearhead. I won the roll-off ad chose the top right, with a single ruin as only terrain.

I kept the flamer squad at full strength at divided the other to in combat squads (Heavy weapon in one, Sarge + Special in the other) I deployed all three Thunderfire Cannons in the now bolstered ruin, each with only the techpriest in cover while the cannon themselves were outside.
The flamer squad hid in cover behind one of the cannons, one of the melta squads were in front whiles the Multi-melta combat squad where behind them. The Multi melta squads hid where ever they could to get cover. The final squad (Melta + Heavy Bolter) combat squaded and reserved. The only one which was in the open without cover was the melta combat squad.
Captain joined the Flamer squad and the librarian joined the Multi-melta squad.

The Necron deployment was kind of strange. Three Squads of necron warriors was in the open, with a fourth in reserve, walking lord was with the middle one, “res robbing” all of them. The wraiths and destroyers (both kinds) were hiding behind the building; the angle meant that nothing could shoot them. The wraiths themselves were in a tight cluster, with the Destroyer Lord in between, joining the right one. The monolith was left in reserve.

He fails to seize and I move onto my turn 1.


Space Marines Turn 1:
Mostly shuffling around. A stupid deployment meant that my flamer squad couldn’t turbo, the attack bike was in area terrain (and took a wound turn 1 form dangerous…) but they made their way straight forward. Melta combat squad moved over to the left, just off the right of the hill. Rest moved forward, keeping out of the obstacle. Sadly that meant that my shooting were rather inefficient with only the thunderfire cannons firing. They however didn’t do quite as good a job as I had hoped, downing 7 necrons from the foot lord’s unit. (I should add here that of 12 blasts per turn I rolled roughly 1-2 hits each turn) And with that very disappointing phase it was the necrons’ turn.

Necrons Turn 1:
The first thing he did was making 5/7 of the WBB rolls, so my shooting phase was even worse than I thought.
Next he did a ballsy move that I think would haunt him for the rest of the game. He tries to [del]derp[/del] deep-strike his foot lord (alone) close to my cannons. Sadly that didn’t go as planned; he scattered off the board and was destroyed, so his movement phase has caused more damage to him than I did in my shooting phase.
Next he turbo-boost his wraiths up 2-3” to the obstacle in the middle, this was a major mistake from his part, both my libby squad and my captain/flamer squad was with in 15” off his current position, which would hurt him a lot later. His destroyers moved to the right, preparing to fire at my, now very exposed, attack bike squadron.
Shooting sees destroyer fire of both variants utterly destroy (Lol, Oscar made a lame pun) one of my Attack Bike Squadrons. No Assaulting and it’s off to turn 2.

Space Marines Turn 2:
The combat squad with melta/fist came in, moving onto the far left side of the board, turbo-boosting half-way up, their eyes set on a squad of warriors. The other combat squad of the same sort moved up alongside them, the only thing separating them the hill. Libby takes up position close to the left Wraiths (without lord) and Captain/Flamer close to the right. The rest of the army shuffle around to get good fire positions.
Shooting sees the heavy destroyers vaporized by Multi-meltas. Thunderfire cannon and combat squad fire kill off a few necron warriors in two of the units. A smattering of Bolters, Meltas, Flamers and an Avenger sees 2/3 wraiths on the left side and the whole unit joined by lord gunned down, the lord takes a wound too, just for good measure.
Libby and his unit charge the single wraith and kill it, removing the wraith threat from the board. The Captain’s unit tries for the lord and reach, but the captain is not in contact. Necron Lord kill an innocent bike and a fist strikes back, taking off a wound as retribution.

Necrons Turn 2:
With three of his important squads down, 1 lord dead and the other close to death he has to do something radical. Sadly for him his monolith doesn’t arrive this turn, rather his last warrior unit move onto the field. WBB sees roughly half of the downed necrons rise again. His warriors move up to rapid fire my squads. One full squad rapid fire at my just arrived bikes, resulting in 2 dead, of which one had a melta gun. The 2 other squads put 30 something shots at my combat squad with librarian, with the only result a single wound on the librarian. The destroyers put 3 wounds on one of my attack squadrons. Panic is passed all around.
In close combat the lord is chopped down by the captain without a chance of striking back.

Space Marine Turn 3:
I move up everything to try to kill as many squads as possible, the combat squad with Melta/Fist without casualties move over the hill, they will team up with the decimated squad to kill the full squad of warriors. The libby move up to “Avenge” his single wound, while the captain move up with his squad to kill another squad. The attack bikes focus on the destroyers, but I lose one bike moving over the obstacle.
In shooting Avenger goes off, killing the whole squad that it aimed at (he had bunched them up real tight). Attack Bikes fire at the destroyers, killing 2 or 3. Rest of the squads + the Thunderfire Cannons (which still couldn’t roll a hit to save their lives) kills some warriors.
Assault sees Captain and his squad charge in and kill everything, attack bike squadron with 3 wounds charge the destroyers (bad move) and do nothing, but take nothing in return. The 2 combat squads charge the full squad, major flub on both sides sees a single warrior dead.

Necron Turn 3:
He needed two things to happen now, first his lord really needed to pass his WBB and his monolith really, really needed to arrive. But nothing of that happened. The rest of the WBB rolls were decent, but he was dangerously close to Phase out.
His shooting sees 1 or 2 die from my captain’s unit and close combat sees fail on both sides. Nothing in the destroyer combat while the other combat was a tie, 1 wound on both sides.

Space Marine Turn 4:
Not much really, everything move up to kill his last squads, and succeed, Necron phase out in the end of the turn.


So everything worked out well, I didn't roll too well, but he rolled even worse.
If I'm going to give a MVP it would be he libby, he got off Avenger three times, killing 3 wraiths with the first and roughly 15 warriors with the other two combined.

This is my first battle report so please comment on what needs changing.

it was late, i was sick, the sun was in my eyes, my dice were cursed... o wait it was like midnight and vassal. well what can I say. a couple of ambitious (stupid) moves on my part and the rest wall all down hill. or maybe it more like falling off of a cliff. hey, "who dares wins" right? the only thing that went well for me was some WBB rolls for my warriors which just seemed to delay the inevitable. the monolith never got to play and i lost my foot lord to what amounted to the worst possible scatter then misshap that could happen. the laughing god was ROFL on this one. had i seen his list before i made mine it may have been different. 10 multi meltas and 3 thunderfire cannons was pretty hardcore. necrons dont have much against that. i do think its kinda unfair that a space marine army can soley comprised of bikes with mostly heavy weapons (eldar too) but hey, thems tha rules! maybe when the new codex comes out i can mount gausss cannons on wraiths and field about 20 of them! so hopefully i can get a rematch and.i can change my list a little and roll a little better and pop some those bigass tires on those silly bikes!

Oscarius finally played a match??!?!? HERESY!

lowmanjason: Yes, you had some REALLY bad luck. I'm up for a rematch at any time, but I'll probably use a different sort of bike list.

TherVadam: I know, who would have thought that a daka member played warhammer.

I really wouldn't change too much on your list Oscarius. everything seems to have worked well.

Only try and get more guns on if anything

Nah, I want to try out a more MSU style and Typhoons.
I'm thinking: Captain with Relic Blade, Libby, 2 full squads and 3 mini ones. Finally sprinkle on some Typhoons.

Captain with Relic Blade on bike with hellfire rounds bolter.

Epistolary Librarian on bike with null zone & avenger

2 5 man bike squads (troops)

2 5 man bike squad (fast attack)

3 landspeeder squadrons.

Nah I thought more of the kind:

Captain, Relic Blade, Armour
Libby on Bike
Two 8 man squads, one Flamer/HB and one Melta/MM
Three 4 Man squads, on Flamer/HB, two Melta/MM (maybe change one of those to Plasma/HB)
Three squadrons of Typhoon Speeders, two duos, one trio.

Corennus wrote:Captain with Relic Blade on bike with hellfire rounds bolter.

Epistolary Librarian on bike with null zone & avenger

2 5 man bike squads (troops)

2 5 man bike squad (fast attack)

3 landspeeder squadrons.

Why would you ever take bike squads as fast attack when you have a captain?

True....I don't use bikes personally but see your point

I'm always glad to see some more people playing the crons!

However, the list could use a little revamping. Like, having only one squad of destroyers and heavy destroyers isn't a very good idea because then you'll never get your WBB rolls. So, it'd probably be better to decide between wraiths or destroyers. And having two monoliths is never a bad idea! Especially since they can insta-kill bikes with no save, are mobile LOS blockers, make all of your opponent's meltas cry, and and are str 9 ap 1 ordnance.

I also think giving the destroyer lord a war scythe and phase shifter and res orb is probably your best bet so he can throw down with the likes of hammernators

40 warriors also seems a bit over kill. Orks are all about more boys less toys... necrons disagree with that sentiment.

I think that if you had two monoliths, then deep striking it so you could get some guys onto his objective would have been a good idea, but with only one it just took out a lot of your offensive capabilities.

Hopefully this is somewhat helpful!

SamplesoWoopass wrote:I'm always glad to see some more people playing the crons!

However, the list could use a little revamping. Like, having only one squad of destroyers and heavy destroyers isn't a very good idea because then you'll never get your WBB rolls. So, it'd probably be better to decide between wraiths or destroyers. And having two monoliths is never a bad idea! Especially since they can insta-kill bikes with no save, are mobile LOS blockers, make all of your opponent's meltas cry, and and are str 9 ap 1 ordnance.

I also think giving the destroyer lord a war scythe and phase shifter and res orb is probably your best bet so he can throw down with the likes of hammernators

40 warriors also seems a bit over kill. Orks are all about more boys less toys... necrons disagree with that sentiment.

I think that if you had two monoliths, then deep striking it so you could get some guys onto his objective would have been a good idea, but with only one it just took out a lot of your offensive capabilities.

Hopefully this is somewhat helpful!

it was helpfull, this was a general list i had to come up with on the fly, i had no idea what kind of army he was going to play other than it was "space marines". i usually dont use HDs at all but i figured he would have a land raider or rhino, so i took them with hope to atleast degrade their capabilities on the 1st turn. yet another mistake i made. i think that is mor a vassal lerning experience than a 40k learning xp! dont assume " i have space marines!" means vanilla. usually 6 wraiths with the D Lord set up does really well. 10 multi-meltas changed that.as for the monolith(s). ive never used more than 1. not because i dont want to but because they are pretty pricey. maybe ill change that next time!

SamplesoWoopass wrote:I'm always glad to see some more people playing the crons!

However, the list could use a little revamping. Like, having only one squad of destroyers and heavy destroyers isn't a very good idea because then you'll never get your WBB rolls. So, it'd probably be better to decide between wraiths or destroyers. And having two monoliths is never a bad idea! Especially since they can insta-kill bikes with no save, are mobile LOS blockers, make all of your opponent's meltas cry, and and are str 9 ap 1 ordnance.

I also think giving the destroyer lord a war scythe and phase shifter and res orb is probably your best bet so he can throw down with the likes of hammernators

40 warriors also seems a bit over kill. Orks are all about more boys less toys... necrons disagree with that sentiment.

I think that if you had two monoliths, then deep striking it so you could get some guys onto his objective would have been a good idea, but with only one it just took out a lot of your offensive capabilities.

Hopefully this is somewhat helpful!

Str9 AP3 ordnance with only 1 AP1 hit if the center hole is over a model/base. But yes, more liths needed and less deep striking (IMHO).

Yes, you had some REALLY bad luck. I'm up for a rematch at any time, but I'll probably use a different sort of bike list.

how about Thursday night/Friday morning around the same time!?

Doubt that, if it's the same time (around 6AM) then I have to go to school within the hour.
Weekends are always better.

maybe this weekend then



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i think I'll start a vassal challenge & schedule thread