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Is there any reason I can't mount my Infinity models on 40mm bases instead of 25mm, for scenic purposes?

I'm no expert on infinity but I think the cateran is a model that is supposed to be on a 25mm base but comes with a 40mm scenic base. So it should be ok I guess.

In Infinity measures are made from the centre of the base, so it should be fine.

There's one significant issue: cover. Measurements are made from the centre of the base, as Erasoketa says, but a unit is determined to be in cover when in base contact with scenery, so having a larger than normal base will allow a unit to be in cover from a further distance. Similarly, it'll make it more difficult to fit your characters into narrower areas - important when you're trying to hunker down between objects. It'd also most certainly be tournament illegal, but that's besides the point.

So yeah, it'd have some effects on gameplay, but in the end it's up to you and your friends whether you'll allow it!

You can, but you would be stopped from passing through gaps smaller than your base (scenario restrictions, for example).

Most infantry is on a 25mm base - only TAGs, remotes and motorcycles use a larger base (40mm for the most part, with 75-80mm for the Haqq Marghariba guard TAG)

wiper wrote:There's one significant issue: cover. Measurements are made from the centre of the base, as Erasoketa says, but a unit is determined to be in cover when in base contact with scenery, so having a larger than normal base will allow a unit to be in cover from a further distance. Similarly, it'll make it more difficult to fit your characters into narrower areas - important when you're trying to hunker down between objects. It'd also most certainly be tournament illegal, but that's besides the point.

So yeah, it'd have some effects on gameplay, but in the end it's up to you and your friends whether you'll allow it!

Yep, I didn't think about that. However the rulebook says that you can use a mini with a more standard pose to determine the LoS and cover. CB does it to not to penalize dynamic poses (wich they like, maybe too much). So I guess it would be still ok.

Yep, it would just mean needing some generic models to swap back and forth. Though for the sake of your opponent, in their turn it'd mean you'd almost always have your awesome looking model off the table, replaced by the generic proxy model, so that they can judge LOS at a glance when moving around (assumes your models spend most of their time in cover, which they probably ought to )

Yes using a large base is illegal and can cause significant issues. Infinity uses base sizes for a lot of things first and foremost is the prone position where you model actually counts as your base, so altering the size will cause issues.

I would highly recommend against it, but if you are just doing friendly matches and you buddies don't care it's not a biggy.

chromedog wrote:You can, but you would be stopped from passing through gaps smaller than your base (scenario restrictions, for example).

Most infantry is on a 25mm base - only TAGs, remotes and motorcycles use a larger base (40mm for the most part, with 75-80mm for the Haqq Marghariba guard TAG)

Is this rule listed in the book somewhere?

I'd love to have a page number to reference before building anything!

A model has to be able to physically move through a location to legally move there and the base's size is considered their footprint. If the base is wider then say a narrow alley, then they can not move through it. As a rule of thumb when you are buiding terrain make the gap 1.5" wide if you only want infantry to get in, 2.5" if you want the vast majority of stuff to get in, and 4.5" if you want to ensure everything can get through.

The reason most people don't use the Marghariba Guard has nothing to do with it's stats, it's all about the fact that the damn tank is a PITA to fit anywhere.

Does it state anywhere what the Marghariba Guard's base size is 'supposed' to be?



I own this model (won off of eBay for a good price!) but I haven't looked inside the box recently, and I don't remember if it comes supplied with the base pictured...

Plus, how cool is this?

The rules for his base size is in the Infinity Tournament System rules: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/its/[en]ITSRules.pdf

"The miniatures must be mounted on the base they were supplied with,
or a base of the same dimensions, because it can have an effect on some
aspects of the game such as hand-to-hand combat. For the Haqqislam
Maghariba Guard, supplied without a base, we recommend the use of a
round 8 cm/4 inch in diameter base."

Naw the MG doesn't come with a base. Also note that 8cm isn't the same size as 4", so takign the smaller of the two is a better idea if you can get the model to fit on it well.

The "Base Rules" are base rules, because the rules and the players really need some text to rely on. Those are the words to read when doubts come during gameplay, during hard gameplay, during tournament gameplay... ok.
But when it comes to make the miniatures looks awesome, when a player has good paintign skills and wnats to paint an army and work on some really good looking bases... come on!

Alpharius wrote:

Plus, how cool is this?

That is quite possibly one of the coolest things I have ever seen !

BlueDagger wrote:The rules for his base size is in the Infinity Tournament System rules: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/its/[en]ITSRules.pdf

"The miniatures must be mounted on the base they were supplied with,
or a base of the same dimensions, because it can have an effect on some
aspects of the game such as hand-to-hand combat. For the Haqqislam
Maghariba Guard, supplied without a base, we recommend the use of a
round 8 cm/4 inch in diameter base."

Naw the MG doesn't come with a base. Also note that 8cm isn't the same size as 4", so takign the smaller of the two is a better idea if you can get the model to fit on it well.

BD - any links to a good base to use for the MG?

Mini-cds.

Otherwise, there are a couple of base producers that can do them.

I'd just get out my hole saw and cut out an 80mm round, personally (from 3mm mdf/fpvc/whatever).

BlueDagger wrote:The rules for his base size is in the Infinity Tournament System rules: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/its/[en]ITSRules.pdf

"The miniatures must be mounted on the base they were supplied with,
or a base of the same dimensions, because it can have an effect on some
aspects of the game such as hand-to-hand combat. For the Haqqislam
Maghariba Guard, supplied without a base, we recommend the use of a
round 8 cm/4 inch in diameter base."

Naw the MG doesn't come with a base. Also note that 8cm isn't the same size as 4", so takign the smaller of the two is a better idea if you can get the model to fit on it well.

Hey!

You weren't kidding!

8cm is 3.15 inches!

WTF?!?

*EDIT*

Luckily, DRAGON FORGE to the rescue with an 80mm Round Base!

Alpharius wrote:
Hey!

You weren't kidding!

8cm is 3.15 inches!

WTF?!?

*EDIT*

Luckily, DRAGON FORGE to the rescue with an 80mm Round Base!

I don't think many people in Spain KNOW what an inch is.
Almost as bad as Americans with their weird inch fraction measurements. 89 3/16". What's wrong with saying 2265.36mm?

It's not the only wtf moment in Infinity though.
Check the movement rate table. The numbers are in centimetres, the table states "inches" though. Wow, I'd love bikes with a mov of 20"/15" instead of the 8"/6" they actually have.

That's just a typo though, right?

The whole 8cm to "4" inches (instead of 3.15!) is a bigger deal, though only in terms of what the 'official' base on one particular model 'should be'...

It's not so much a typo as proofreading error by someone not au fait with Imperial measurements or English.

The book is pretty, the layout is not so much. Especially for native English speakers used to a certain format (that's has been standard for them for decades).

It's not the only one that crept through. A few weapons are untranslated. Also, translation is not always the best way - transliteration often makes more sense with certain languages.