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NUTS! Was General Anthony McAuliffe infamous response to the Germans demands of American surrender. It also seems to aptly be the title for the next sourcebook.

Battlefront have mentioned that the intend to include the 101st Airbourne's defence of Bastogne and also the introduction of Volksgrenadiers. that means more winter, Ardennes action.

so, any thoughts on special characters?

As Battlefront mention Band of Brothers in a number of their publications I'm going for Ronald Spiers, given that he made such a name for himself in the battle of Foy.

My guess

Americans:
Paratroopers, More tanks (Shermans and TDs)

Germans:
Volkgrenadiers, Grenadiers, tanks

I would love to see Easy Company represented by themselves, and also the option of building a PIR Coy off another Bn.

For Easy Coy men, I'd say 1st Sgt Carwood Lipton would be an appropriate entry.

I can not wait for this book.Then i will finally get use some Sherman Caliopes for my 101st Airborne and a updated list.

According to the rumblings on the Battlefront website, it sounds like a Volksgrenadierkompanie has been confirmed. 26. Volksgrenadier sounds like a possible choice, and some other people have mentioned the 272. Volksgrenadier as well, so I guess we'll see. There's certainly a pretty wide variety of units that the book could cover, depending on how specific Battlefront wants to get. It'd be cool to see a Fusilierkompanie list as well.

Where are people seeing this? I have tried searching both the BF website and forums, but I don't get any information. Thanks - Mez

Mezmaron wrote:Where are people seeing this? I have tried searching both the BF website and forums, but I don't get any information. Thanks - Mez

There is a Nuts! thread in the Battlefront general discussion forum. Here's a link.

Considering that there is already a set of WW2 rules called NUTS! this can only cause confusion.

LuciusAR wrote:Considering that there is already a set of WW2 rules called NUTS! this can only cause confusion.

I was thinking this thread was about the game Nuts! at first, but then I saw it was about the next FOW book. Even so, I don't think it'll cause that much confusion, especially considering the game Nuts!, while certainly a good game, isn't nearly as popular as Flames of War. It's also more of a skirmish game, so I don't think there will be too much of a problem with Flames of War or other WW2 player confusing the two books.

Just found this, and thanks to the guys at the WWPD site:

Sweet. Do you have a specific link?

Yup - a bookstore here.

At the time of this post, it looks like 70 days till release.

Awesome! That's some nice cover art! I'm looking forward to finally getting a proper Volksgrenadier list.

Hordini wrote:Awesome! That's some nice cover art! I'm looking forward to finally getting a proper Volksgrenadier list.

And some new toys for my 101st. Airborne!

Cwen wrote:NUTS! Was General Anthony McAuliffe infamous response to the Germans demands of American surrender.

You know what I never really found that all that inspiring or funny, it just doesn't mean anything. He could have said "Cow" or anything, I understand the implied sentiment, but actually it can be read so many different ways that to an opposite General would just be slightly confused.

"I'm Nuts? They are Nuts? It's Nuts? Surrender is Nuts? You are Nuts? This McAuliffe fella is an Idiot" is probably the thought processes of a German general. Just a simple statement of "MENTAL" means little. I'm sure he could have tried a little harder, even "F*&% off Fritz" would have been the Purile but popular answer.

I think this is one of these things that is loved by Historians, Military Top Brass and Military Buffs talked about afterwards like it was inspired, but actually on the day itself 99% of the Troops wouldn't have given 2 hoots because they were trying to keeping warm and trying to stay alive. It has kind of taken on a life of it's own and is actually one of those Horse-Sh*t type things that happens for the benefit of reporters and Home Morale but actually has little to do with the reality on the ground. Being a Senior Military Officer, Politics, Morale and everything else comes together so nothing is ever that clear cut.

On Topic, it looks like an interesting book.

mwnciboo wrote:

Cwen wrote:NUTS! Was General Anthony McAuliffe infamous response to the Germans demands of American surrender.

You know what I never really found that all that inspiring or funny, it just doesn't mean anything. He could have said "Cow" or anything, I understand the implied sentiment, but actually it can be read so many different ways that to an opposite General would just be slightly confused.

"I'm Nuts? They are Nuts? It's Nuts? Surrender is Nuts? You are Nuts? This McAuliffe fella is an Idiot" is probably the thought processes of a German general. Just a simple statement of "MENTAL" means little. I'm sure he could have tried a little harder, even "F*&% off Fritz" would have been the Purile but popular answer.

I think this is one of these things that is loved by Historians, Military Top Brass and Military Buffs talked about afterwards like it was inspired, but actually on the day itself 99% of the Troops wouldn't have given 2 hoots because they were trying to keeping warm and trying to stay alive. It has kind of taken on a life of it's own and is actually one of those Horse-Sh*t type things that happens for the benefit of reporters and Home Morale but actually has little to do with the reality on the ground. Being a Senior Military Officer, Politics, Morale and everything else comes together so nothing is ever that clear cut.

On Topic, it looks like an interesting book.

I always assumed that it implied something like NUTS! = NONSENSE! Which would be the kind of reply which makes sense (pun intended). Unless I was very very wrong with those linguistic nuances...

It does by implication, but again the lack of complete clarity.

"Your Surrender Request is Refused. NUTS"

England and America are two countries divided by a common language

mwnciboo wrote:It does by implication, but again the lack of complete clarity.

"Your Surrender Request is Refused. NUTS"

England and America are two countries divided by a common language

Spoken like a true Welsh-man!

I think theGEneral was implying one of theese terms for his famous quote.
Nuts is slang for the testicles.
Nuts is slang for insane.

I had taken theese from a AMerican Slang Dictionary.

YEah if he knew that he would go down history for that saying. i think he would have said something else like,Go f yourself or Eat a D#$k.

col. krazy kenny wrote: YEah if he knew that he would go down history for that saying. i think he would have said something else like,Go f yourself or Eat a D#$k.

Well, he went down the history exactly because of that saying.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_McAuliffe

On December 22, 1944, through a party consisting of a major, a lieutenant, and two enlisted men under a flag of truce that entered the American lines southeast of Bastogne (occupied by Company F, 2nd Battalion, 327th Glider Infantry), General von Lüttwitz sent the following ultimatum to Gen. McAuliffe:

To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.

The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours term.

All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well-known American humanity.
The German Commander.

According to various accounts from those present, when McAuliffe was told of the German demand for surrender he said "nuts". At a loss for an official reply, Lt. Col. Harry Kinnard suggested that his first remark summed up the situation well, which was agreed to by the others. The official reply was typed and delivered by Colonel Joseph Harper, commanding the 327th Glider Infantry, to the German delegation. It was as follows:

To the German Commander.

NUTS!

The American Commander

Suffice it to say, the Germans were perplexed at the short reply. Harper offered an explanation of the meaning of the word to the Germans, telling them that in "plain English" it meant "Go to hell". The word choice came directly from McAuliffe and was typical for him. Vincent Vicari, his personal aide at the time, recalled that "General Mac was the only general I ever knew who did not use profane language. 'Nuts' was part of his normal vocabulary."

Sigh...would be nice to see some more LW love for the British. Though I guess it saves me money in not having to buy any new books of late for FoW. The Americans and Germans aren't the only troops that fought during the bulge...

Skriker

Skriker wrote:Sigh...would be nice to see some more LW love for the British. Though I guess it saves me money in not having to buy any new books of late for FoW. The Americans and Germans aren't the only troops that fought during the bulge...

Skriker

To true.

Mat

I guess one of the rumors going around with this book is 101st. Easy company apperance.For me( Saying jokingly) big deal. I play the 502nd anyways.They were one of the few units to make a Bayoney attack in ww2.The only good thing for me about Easy would the new hero. Then with the Firestorm 40k Style box set to released i wonder how many 101st. Airborne player are going to be show up now.Were as of now i can hardly find another 101st. player. I know locally were i am at i am the only one out of twenty players.So i guss next spring ebay willl be stocked with my reinforcements,,,,got to love all of the players that play the flavor of the month. The main reson i even got in to playing the 101st. was because of my brothers, They piicked the force.One was actually in the 502nd and the other was in 173rd. My brother in law who was in the 173rd said he would have joined the 101st. but they are no longer Paratroopers and are Air Assult. He jokes and said they turned them into a Damn Glider Division.