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Made in lv
Charging Wild Rider





OK, I am trying to make a versatile and fun list, with many diff.options (for enhanced rules learning), not that much competitive, but not entire crap either. It will be fielded against Soviet Tankovy with lots infantry support. I've been using both GW and V3 for inspiration but they both have some issues.
GW allows me to field GPG Mortar Platoon without taking HMGs and paying extra points, but V3 has Marders, which GW for unknown reason is lacking.
The list currently is as follows:
Company HQ and 2iC with no upgrades (because I am running out of points)
2 GPG platoons with 4 stands each - again no upgrades except for the free 251/10 on both platoon commands
Heavy Platoon with 2 HMG and 2 x 251/2s - or just 2 x 251/2s when using Grey Wolf.
3 Panzers
3 Marders (again, Marders are out when using GW)
Panzerspah (223 + 2 x 222s) - now this is my main concern. I will be defending most probably (unless the other player decides to switch to Strelkovy with lots of tanks ), so I will not be ambushing, but I can still use them to lift GtG infantry. These are 110 points anyway, which could be invested into extra GPG platoon stands and various upgrades. e.g. panzerfausts...

Or I could just take the minimum infantry stands, a couple of Panzers IV, forget Marders and Recce and invest into one Tiger 1E? Seems not very fun for my opponent, who will only have his IL-2 to deal with this threat...

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/02 09:10:48


Looking to trade away 15mm Forged in Battle Pumas (still in the box). 
   
Made in gb
Bounding Assault Marine





Cheshire, UK

I'd go for either the extra guys+pzfaust options, or take AA instead of the 222s. A couple of armoured 3.7cm halftracks is about the same points and should trash aircraft, and also give you a bit more long range dakka vs all the soviet mans.

   
Made in lv
Charging Wild Rider





The fact is that I don't have points for AA even if i drop 222's. In one of my trial lists I only have 2 undersized platoons + mortar/hmg platoon - the rest are 3 xPanzers and 3 x Marders and no recce. I could drop one Marder, which would allow me to field 2 unarmored 10/5s but I don't have points for armored version and I cannot shave down points from infantry platoons, since they do not have any upgrades whatsoever. Another issue is that I don't have 10/5s either, but I could proxy them with 7/2s. This is like playing those damn elven/eldar species when You can't get anything decent in small points games

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/10/03 07:05:10


Looking to trade away 15mm Forged in Battle Pumas (still in the box). 
   
Made in us
Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper





I take it you're playing around the 1000 points level?
At this level, you might want to take a look at the SS - Panzergrenadierkampfgruppe, using the 5. SS Wiking list. from GW, It follows the Gep Panzergren formation, but you can have Marders as well.

The catch here is that you'll be Fearless/Trained instead of Confident/Vet, but this comes at a decent price-decrease, so that for your 1k points you can field a bit more than Vet lists of the same type.

So, from what you have listed, you could take the following in a 5. SS List;

HQ (Panzergrenadier) - 1x CinC SMG, 1x 2iC SMG, 2x Sd Kfz 251/1 (60 pts)

Combat:

Gepanzerte SS Panzergrenadier Platoon - 1x Command MG, 4x MG, 3x Sd Kfz 251/1 (145 pts)

Gepanzerte SS Panzergrenadier Platoon - 1x Command MG, 4x MG, 3x Sd Kfz 251/1 (145 pts)

SS Panzer Platoon - 1x Command Panzer IVH, 2x Panzer IVH (230 pts)

Weapons:

Armored SS Anti-Aircraft Gun Platoon - 1x Command Armored Sd Kfz 10/5 (2cm) Half-track, 1x Armored Sd Kfz 10/5 (2cm) Half-track (70 pts)

Armored SS Heavy Platoon - 1x Command SMG, 1x Sd Kfz 251/1 half-track (15 pts)
- Mortar Section - 1x Observer Rifle, 1x Kubelwagen, 2x Sd Kfz 251/2 (8 cm) half-track (75 pts)

Support:

SS-Tank-Hunter Platoon - 1x Command Marder III M, 2x Marder III M (165 pts)

Heavy SS-Panzerspah Patrol - 2x Command Sd Kfz 231 (8 rad), 2x Sd Kfz 231 (8 rad) (140 pts)


880 Points, 7 Platoons

You use the two-tube mortar section for your smoke. You still have the Marders and the Panzers,
You still retain AA and the recon section that is the 8-rads (2 platoons) and you still have some points to play with for upgrades of your choosing by adding HMG's or PanzerFaust upgrades to your HQ sections.

The only drawback is the list being Fearless/Trained......which in my opinion, is no big deal when I can put more forces on the table with this kind of setup.
   
Made in lv
Charging Wild Rider





Wow! Great - this is exactly I was looking for! I am planning to field Heer Gep-Panzergrenadiers, but for the rules and gameplay learning some proxying will be fine!

Many thanks again!

Looking to trade away 15mm Forged in Battle Pumas (still in the box). 
   
Made in ca
Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say




Oromocto, NB, Canada

Huh?


Mat

 
   
 
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