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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 14:09:07
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Space marine's make their homes on planets and moons, but despite my best efforts (i apologise if i am just missing them) i cannot find anything on wether they would live on a ship/cruiser/barge of any type and travel through space/the galaxy in the name of the emporer.
So do any chapter's do this? if so which ship might they do so on?
I've read a bit on the battle barge but it seems that its more of a military ship than an actual base of operations.
Thank you all whom reply, much appreciated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 14:33:01
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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There are fleet based chapters such as the black templars and the souldrinkers, think the imperial fists are also based on the phalanx their giant space fortress.
Battle barges can hold 300 space marines and need thousands of chapter slaves to run, and a fleet would be composed of hundreds of vessels, only the first founding chapters had pre heresy ships like the phalanx.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 14:40:34
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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hobojebus wrote:There are fleet based chapters such as the black templars and the souldrinkers, think the imperial fists are also based on the phalanx their giant space fortress.
Battle barges can hold 300 space marines and need thousands of chapter slaves to run, and a fleet would be composed of hundreds of vessels, only the first founding chapters had pre heresy ships like the phalanx.
Thats a bit of useful information, thanks.
so my own chapter would not be able to posess such a space fortress? but i could have a small fleet of barges*?
*barges only or more types?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 15:31:51
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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lloyd.net wrote:hobojebus wrote:There are fleet based chapters such as the black templars and the souldrinkers, think the imperial fists are also based on the phalanx their giant space fortress.
Battle barges can hold 300 space marines and need thousands of chapter slaves to run, and a fleet would be composed of hundreds of vessels, only the first founding chapters had pre heresy ships like the phalanx.
Thats a bit of useful information, thanks.
so my own chapter would not be able to posess such a space fortress? but i could have a small fleet of barges*?
*barges only or more types?!
They could have one, it would just be rare. And most chapters have 1-2 barges and a few more cruisers/strike vessels
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 15:39:29
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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TheAngrySquig wrote: lloyd.net wrote:hobojebus wrote:There are fleet based chapters such as the black templars and the souldrinkers, think the imperial fists are also based on the phalanx their giant space fortress.
Battle barges can hold 300 space marines and need thousands of chapter slaves to run, and a fleet would be composed of hundreds of vessels, only the first founding chapters had pre heresy ships like the phalanx.
Thats a bit of useful information, thanks.
so my own chapter would not be able to posess such a space fortress? but i could have a small fleet of barges*?
*barges only or more types?!
They could have one, it would just be rare. And most chapters have 1-2 barges and a few more cruisers/strike vessels
thank you! very helpful indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 15:47:35
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Actually, marine chapters are not allowed to have more then 2, sometimes 3 Battle BArges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 16:03:33
Subject: Re:Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Chapters could very easily have a space station under their command (particularly chapters that don't live on the planet they recruit from). They just wouldn't have the old pre-heresy stations, and would instead have the more current ones, like the Ramilies. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ramilles_Class_Star-fort#.UMyfNG_BF8F
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 16:20:01
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Confessor Of Sins
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Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be added to their fleet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 16:52:24
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Spetulhu wrote:Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be added to their fleet.
More likely melted down for scrap or just destroyed. Taint of chaos/xenos/ bs and all
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 17:12:37
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Black Templars buddy. Fleet based chapter, constantly crusading, and currently outnumbers pretty much every chapter out there. Which means a gak ton of ships. Only roots they lay down are fortresses on conquered worlds for the purpose of recruiting more Neophytes and promptly sending them out into space to charge MCs with chainswords.
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BLACK TEMPLARS - 2000 0RkZ - 2000 NIDZ - WIP STEEL LEGION - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 02:05:25
Subject: Re:Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The chapter's fortress monastery (the giant mobile space fortress) isn't always a ship from the beginning. The Dark Angels use The Rock. It was at one point on their homeworld until it was destroyed. Then they retrofit the chunk of the planet with the structure into the ship it is now.
And a more recursive chapter could easily requisition an imperial world to build them some ships without anyone knowing. There are chapters that have such little contact with imperial government that they have been presumed destroyed only to show up one day.
Also bear in mind that these giant vessels are often very dangerous. A number of chapters that use them have disappears when engaging their warp drives. Something about the power required to create a warp field that large being unstable. The Legion of the Dawned are believed to be one such chapter (the Firehawks).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 11:24:46
Subject: Re:Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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An issue arose:
Only well known and successful admirals, or Inquisitors, are entrusted with a Ramilles, as they can take centuries to build.
Taken from lexicanum url link you gave me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 11:28:39
Subject: Re:Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Battleship Captain
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lloyd.net wrote:
An issue arose:
Only well known and successful admirals, or Inquisitors, are entrusted with a Ramilles, as they can take centuries to build.
Taken from lexicanum url link you gave me
Any Space marine Chapter Master of the Fleet worth his salt would have enough Naval prowess to be deemed worthy of one. Automatically Appended Next Post: Spetulhu wrote:Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be added to their fleet.
Space Marines?
Capture?
Oh. You meant "Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be purged with holy promethium and lance-fire by the Emperor's will." right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 11:47:37
Subject: Re:Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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TheCaptain wrote: lloyd.net wrote:
An issue arose:
Only well known and successful admirals, or Inquisitors, are entrusted with a Ramilles, as they can take centuries to build.
Taken from lexicanum url link you gave me
Any Space marine Chapter Master of the Fleet worth his salt would have enough Naval prowess to be deemed worthy of one.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Spetulhu wrote:Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be added to their fleet.
Space Marines?
Capture?
Oh. You meant "Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be purged with holy promethium and lance-fire by the Emperor's will." right?
Worthy based on what?, Sorry to sound rude im just looking for some hard evidence to show this, if i am to include a floating fortress for my chapter i want it to pan out just right so my local buddies don't give too much hate; the more evidence i have for my work means the more plausible it is and the more fun i can have with it....
p.s. everyone whos been reading this so far, if i can get a ship of some variety for my chapter i hope to build it too  so that will be fun and ... long haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 16:18:03
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Worthy based on being a Space Marine. They really do know what theyre doing
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 04:50:27
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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d3m01iti0n wrote:Black Templars buddy. Fleet based chapter, constantly crusading, and currently outnumbers pretty much every chapter out there. Which means a gak ton of ships. Only roots they lay down are fortresses on conquered worlds for the purpose of recruiting more Neophytes and promptly sending them out into space to charge MCs with chainswords.
Thanks, this reply helped heaps Automatically Appended Next Post: TheAngrySquig wrote:Spetulhu wrote:Any vessels the Chapter happens to capture in battle could ofc be added to their fleet.
More likely melted down for scrap or just destroyed. Taint of chaos/xenos/ bs and all
I got to admit i cant see a marine comondering a ship at all... more likely the latter would be true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 09:36:02
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Confessor Of Sins
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WH40K is the ultimate scavenger future. Marines use armor where an individual piece might be older than their entire Chapter and revered as a relic. A hero's armor will be stored and pieces incorporated into the armors of marines that do something heroic. They'll throw men into battle in order to recover a disabled Dreadnought since they value it so highly. Everything they have is likely to be used, re-used, refitted, repaired and polished up once again. The marines may die but their battlegear lives forever.
A ship of Imperial design (as human pirates or renegades might use) is much bigger than anything a Marine usually worries about, but it's a revered relic, a sign of the power of mankind and incredibly valuable. Surely it's the Chapter's duty to take it back for the Emperor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 10:26:09
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Spetulhu wrote:WH40K is the ultimate scavenger future. Marines use armor where an individual piece might be older than their entire Chapter and revered as a relic. A hero's armor will be stored and pieces incorporated into the armors of marines that do something heroic. They'll throw men into battle in order to recover a disabled Dreadnought since they value it so highly. Everything they have is likely to be used, re-used, refitted, repaired and polished up once again. The marines may die but their battlegear lives forever.
Even the added parts of a Space Marine are re-used.
An Apothocary's main role is to farm the Geneseed from dead Marines, to re-use in new recruits.
So, it's not just the weapons, armour and vehicles that get scavenged, but parts of the troops themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 11:20:39
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Spetulhu wrote:
WH40K is the ultimate scavenger future. Marines use armor where an individual piece might be older than their entire Chapter and revered as a relic. A hero's armor will be stored and pieces incorporated into the armors of marines that do something heroic. They'll throw men into battle in order to recover a disabled Dreadnought since they value it so highly. Everything they have is likely to be used, re-used, refitted, repaired and polished up once again. The marines may die but their battlegear lives forever.
A ship of Imperial design (as human pirates or renegades might use) is much bigger than anything a Marine usually worries about, but it's a revered relic, a sign of the power of mankind and incredibly valuable. Surely it's the Chapter's duty to take it back for the Emperor.
I guess i can see where your coming from, i did mean it more in the sense of xenos ship's...but for imperial ships sure why not.
As far as dreadnoughts and armor goes i think thats without saying all 100% correct but a bit of subject  just a tiny bit anywho... still relevant in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 19:57:20
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Confessor Of Sins
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lloyd.net wrote:As far as dreadnoughts and armor goes i think thats without saying all 100% correct but a bit of subject  just a tiny bit anywho... still relevant in the grand scheme of things.
It wasn't meant as an insult - I play Blood Angels myself when I feel like it. The IoM might not call it "scavenging the gear of the ancient dead" but that's what it is. And if you want the best you have to rob the dead, simply because their stuff is better than anything the average TechMagos will build for you without a major favor to call in, like returning a lost STC.
As someone explained the AdMech in another thread... They're not learned librarians hoarding ancient library knowledge, they're the children of librarians hoarding the burnt pages of books from the fire that took out their library.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 03:41:19
Subject: Space Marine HeadQuarter's Questions
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Spetulhu wrote: lloyd.net wrote:As far as dreadnoughts and armor goes i think thats without saying all 100% correct but a bit of subject  just a tiny bit anywho... still relevant in the grand scheme of things.
It wasn't meant as an insult - I play Blood Angels myself when I feel like it. The IoM might not call it "scavenging the gear of the ancient dead" but that's what it is. And if you want the best you have to rob the dead, simply because their stuff is better than anything the average TechMagos will build for you without a major favor to call in, like returning a lost STC.
As someone explained the AdMech in another thread... They're not learned librarians hoarding ancient library knowledge, they're the children of librarians hoarding the burnt pages of books from the fire that took out their library.
Yeah all good  , thanks.
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