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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 00:56:39
Subject: Beginner Dark eldar player here, whats the best way to field what i have in mind.
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Araqiel
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Ive started a dark eldar army, been reading up on the rules a lot and making or planning an army. So far I have a squad of warriors and a squad of wyches and a raider transport. The warrior squad have a blaster and a dark lance and the wyches have got one with a razorflail and one with hydra gauntlets. They also have a hekatrix with splinter pistol and a agoniser.
Now what I have in mind to run with is a distraction force followed by some heavy hitters. I need advice on how best to build for that, im thinking of having Urien rakarth as a leader so i can take some wracks as troop choices and back them up with some grotesques but i had planned on using a webway portal and im not sure about what to do. Any advice on fielding an army like i suggested? Im stumped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 03:55:39
Subject: Beginner Dark eldar player here, whats the best way to field what i have in mind.
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Dakka Veteran
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just take hekatrix as succubus, she wrecks in CC with her agonizer, also WWP armies have been nerfed as you're not able to assault coming out of it. also Urien Rakarth is a steaming pile of pus and extra limbs, way too expensive for what he does, just take a normal Haemonculi
in terms of the units that you currently have, you want to get your wyches into CC as fast as possible so put them into the raider and give them haywire grenades. for the warriors, get them into cover. Also for something that would be really funny, you could try taking 3 grotesques with a succubus , meaning they act as a shield for her and make a great bodyguard.
Lastly you might want to try taking eldar allies, based on your profile picture and signature...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 07:36:16
Subject: Re:Beginner Dark eldar player here, whats the best way to field what i have in mind.
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Urien Rakarth is okay, but three haemonculi are better as you can give wyches the pain tokens not just wracks that are still troops plus one left over for your warriors should you chose to put them in a defense line or on a bastion. I see where you are going with this though, and I got to recommend Duke Sliscus. Totally get a squad of Wracks, but also another squad of wyches so you can bring some blood brides as well. With Sliscus you get to roll twice for combat drugs and pick either result which is gravy when you know three of your squads are already starting out with pain tokens, not to mention you can give the Haemonculi a power axe so after the Hecatrix has accepted a challenge the haemonculi can still dish out some damage to terminators; plus Sliscus upgrades the warriors to poisoned 3+. I'll usually start him off in the squad of warriors and jump into the nearby raider of Blood Brides or Incubi at the start of the game (or jump off the roof of the bastion into the transport with his 2++ for the impact test: remember play Dark Eldar with style and the dice gods shall reward you). The great thing about DE is that even the distraction squads are a threat in a Raider so ensure you have one for every squad with night shields. 5 Disetigrator Cannons on raiders combined with 6 dark lances from Ravengers, when used properly, is more than most stand and shoot armies are prepared to handle and deep strike armies will have to get you out of the raider first allowing you the benefit of the assault. Once you start getting loud with the army I'd consider Lilith Hesperax and another Archon with a husk blade, soul trap and shadow field so all of your squads are a major threat in CC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 13:36:28
Subject: Re:Beginner Dark eldar player here, whats the best way to field what i have in mind.
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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As others have said, Web Way Portals are generally out. They can work with some armies, but probably not used in the way you'd like.
You said you want some distraction units, followed up by heavy hitters, so here is a couple options.
For the distraction portion you can field Reavers. Fast, highly maneuverable, pretty survivable, but they also do plenty of damage (enough to force your opponent to pay attention to them). Take 12-18 of them and bladevane/heat lance to your hearts content. Hellions or Scourges can work too but they won't do it as well as reavers will.
For the heavy hitters think along the lines of lots of Grotesques or even Beast Packs if you have the Fast slots. Grotesques when fielded in larger numbers are a bitch to take down (especially when Reavers are slicing up the backfield). Beast Packs are generally considered to be one of the best DE combat units in 6th edition, I don't like them fluff/concept wise, but they do work. Incubi are another option for CC power, good against marines anyway, ride them in Venoms or Raiders.
As far as special characters go, I personally think that the Baron and the Duke are the only ones that are good for their points. The Baron is a bit more situational, best when taken with beasts or Hellions. Duke works better with a bigger variety of lists. As for non-special HQs, Haemonculi and Succubi are both good economic choices, I haven't been impressed by Archons though.
For what you have, Wyches are a great anti-tank unit when they all have Haywires. I personally think Warriors are best when geared with max splinter shots rather than anti-tank. Wyches and Warriors kinda switched roles in 6th edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 14:15:08
Subject: Beginner Dark eldar player here, whats the best way to field what i have in mind.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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AtomicEngineer wrote:Ive started a dark eldar army, been reading up on the rules a lot and making or planning an army. So far I have a squad of warriors and a squad of wyches and a raider transport. The warrior squad have a blaster and a dark lance and the wyches have got one with a razorflail and one with hydra gauntlets. They also have a hekatrix with splinter pistol and a agoniser.
Now what I have in mind to run with is a distraction force followed by some heavy hitters. I need advice on how best to build for that, im thinking of having Urien rakarth as a leader so i can take some wracks as troop choices and back them up with some grotesques but i had planned on using a webway portal and im not sure about what to do. Any advice on fielding an army like i suggested? Im stumped.
webway portals have been nerfed, you can no longer assault out of them and now reserves start coming in sooner
Urien is ok for large games, if you are going to have 3 units of wracks and grotesques to get the free pain tokens, but for starters you will be better with a trio of haemoculi
wych weapons (razorflails, hydraguantlets, and shardnets) arent worth the points. Just use them as plain wyches, add haywire grenades and go kill tanks Automatically Appended Next Post: Creeping Dementia wrote:
As far as special characters go, I personally think that the Baron and the Duke are the only ones that are good for their points. The Baron is a bit more situational, best when taken with beasts or Hellions. Duke works better with a bigger variety of lists. As for non-special HQs, Haemonculi and Succubi are both good economic choices, I haven't been impressed by Archons though.
For what you have, Wyches are a great anti-tank unit when they all have Haywires. I personally think Warriors are best when geared with max splinter shots rather than anti-tank. Wyches and Warriors kinda switched roles in 6th edition.
I really think the baron is the auto take and the duke is situational. Want to DS raiders, probably not so dont take the duke. Taking lots of wyches and need the combat drug reroll, probably not in 6th, so why take the duke. Running a large unit of warriors to take advantage of the dukes posion, again probably not in 6th. So many of the dukes abilities just are not that useful in 6th. He is otherwise a mediocer combat character. Blast pistols are not any use on anyone, least of all the duke.
The baron on the otherhand can go so many places with his grenades, stealth, and hit and run. He can run with reavers, hellions, scourges, or beast packs and keep up with them. If you want, he can also go with foot units in a pinch, incubi and grotesques come to mind as guys who need grenades and stealth. Hit and run is just icing. If you dont want to run him with any unit his str6 is still good against most tanks and +1 to go first is invaluable always.
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