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Other than a model for an objective in an objective based game, does the Death Strike have any use at all?

-Matt

Not really in standard 40K, bigger games like Spearhead and Apocalypse they can do some damage since there's probably a few of them or at least juicier targets around.

Ive seen someone get a lucky roll and launch a Deathstrike turn one. It wasnt pretty...

 IHateNids wrote:
Ive seen someone get a lucky roll and launch a Deathstrike turn one. It wasnt pretty...

IIRC, Deathstrike's can never fire on turn one.

Additionally, I'd love to ally in a Deathstrike for my Orks. It's fluffy and fun!

However, I can imagine Anakyr taking over one and ruining your army.

Well, Anrakyr does that with anything. The best one in my opinion is a manticore.

"You see that bubblewrap around that manticore? yeah, well its dead now"

And I think it can fire turn one ,it just needs to roll a 6

 IHateNids wrote:
Well, Anrakyr does that with anything. The best one in my opinion is a manticore.

"You see that bubblewrap around that manticore? yeah, well its dead now"

And I think it can fire turn one ,it just needs to roll a 6

Nope, the rule clear says you can't shoot until turn 2.

-Matt

Normal large blast is a 5" template. The MAX for the deathstrike is only 6".

It is one shot that may potentially never even fire! Bring an Earthshaker/Medusa. Much better us of the points.

Use it in Apoc for the Vortex Missile formation

It destroys whatever it touches. If you can't find a use for that, you lack creativity.

The problem with the deathstrike isn't that it's useless, it's that it's too random.

Cheesedoodler wrote:
Normal large blast is a 5" template. The MAX for the deathstrike is only 6".

It is one shot that may potentially never even fire! Bring an Earthshaker/Medusa. Much better us of the points.

Might wanna reread that one, brah.

Large blast is a 5" Diameter template.

Death Strike rolls d3+3" RADIUS for its blast.

Potentially a 12" diameter blast.

Woof.

Its basically using the Apoc level pi plate, not the large blast. Random radius so you cant use it every time but same idea.

My friend refuses to bring these things anymore. Hes played for....6-8 years? no idea exactly just played for a loong time - and hes yet to have it launch lol.

 Ailaros wrote:
It destroys whatever it touches. If you can't find a use for that, you lack creativity.

The problem with the deathstrike isn't that it's useless, it's that it's too random.

That must be why I see you taking them in all your lists...

Edit: Another thought, Rather then the random launch and random blast size, it would be neat if they two were tied together. Blast size is twice the turn number, fire whenever you want. So turn 1, it's a 160 points for a 2" radius. Turn 2, it's a 4" radius. Turn 3 it's a 6"... and so on.


-Matt

That unit is definetly not competitive but i could well see it as an handicap in a fun list.
If memory serve(don't have IG codex) it cost somewhere around 160 ish points,transform weapon destroyed results into a penalty on the roll to fire and is mounted on a chimera chassis.
One very un-ignorable chimera chassis.That is the very definition of handicap if you are so good that your opponents struggle just to have a draw against you(not nearly my case) then deathstrike might be for you to level the field(pun intended)
Sure it is only wasted point on any mid-level player but agaisnt a beginner it can serve as teaching tool (target priority,dealing with bubble wrap and so on).
So outside of apocalypse and teaching, it is a liability more than an asset.
So take deathstrike sometimes because that'll teach'em...

The point of the death strike is that it comes in the same box as the manticore.

For its points cost and its rules, the Deathstrike would be considered more if the blast radius was doubled to 6" + d6" and the the warhead was given the instant death rule.

I think a 24 inch explosive might be a little overdone...

I was thinking something more like 'guided missile' - rerolling the scatter. The few times I have gotten to fire mine, it ends up going off into the ether.

Also probably making it slightly easier to launch (eg, +1). By the time it comes to turn 3 or 4, the enemy is already too close for comfort.

Incidently, it really is very good when attacking in planetstrike....

 CaptainGrey wrote:

Cheesedoodler wrote:
Normal large blast is a 5" template. The MAX for the deathstrike is only 6".

It is one shot that may potentially never even fire! Bring an Earthshaker/Medusa. Much better us of the points.

Might wanna reread that one, brah.

Large blast is a 5" Diameter template.

Death Strike rolls d3+3" RADIUS for its blast.

Potentially a 12" diameter blast.

Woof.

A d3 is a six sided dice where a roll of a 1 or a 2 = 1, a 3 or 4 = 2, and a 5 or 6 = 3.

So for d3 + 3 the maximum you'll get is 6.

brah

Diameter = 2 x radius

On a death strike you determine the radius of the blast not diameter

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:

 CaptainGrey wrote:

Cheesedoodler wrote:
Normal large blast is a 5" template. The MAX for the deathstrike is only 6".

It is one shot that may potentially never even fire! Bring an Earthshaker/Medusa. Much better us of the points.

Might wanna reread that one, brah.

Large blast is a 5" Diameter template.

Death Strike rolls d3+3" RADIUS for its blast.

Potentially a 12" diameter blast.

Woof.

A d3 is a six sided dice where a roll of a 1 or a 2 = 1, a 3 or 4 = 2, and a 5 or 6 = 3.

So for d3 + 3 the maximum you'll get is 6.

brah

If you don't understand the difference between diameter and radius, I don't think you get to be my brah.

I wonder if he even lift....
Just a joke,not trying to be mean...i am part canadian,eh.

I used it once in an apoc game (with my orks, looted of course). I killed two landspeeders and broke a sponson on a Las-pred. And yes it was either shoot where I did or vaporize a tac squad, because by that point in the game my opponent didn’t have a lot left.
It is a great alpha-strike weapon, but seeing as you don’t get to use it on the first turn it kind of fails there.
However, it was a lot of fun using it, and I think it would be a great distraction ally for things like Eldar who are good at taking out isolated units when your opponent spreads out. Or maybe if you take three and have a good chance of at least one going off.

I wonder if in larger games (double force orgs) they might work.
Sometimes one is bad and three is awesome.
I wouldn't want them instead of my normal heavies, but taking three at 2500 might be fun.

That sort of idea has proxy written all over it.

-Matt