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So i love Harkevich and this is a list i hope to make

Harkevich
Black Ivan
Decimator
Sylys Wyshnalyr
Greylord ternion
full unit of iron fang pikemen with UA
Koldun lord
Iron fang kovnik

I can put a total of 4 focus a turn on the decimator with the koldun lord, with the help of the ternions they can drop the defense of any high value target so it can hit it. On the feat turn this can give the decimator possibly 4 focus to do amazing attacks with it. black ivan only needs like 1 focus for boosting damage. with a free upkeep from sylys I can cast more spells.

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Reread the Koldun lord's power booster ability. You can only put focus onto a warjack that does not already have focus on it, so you cannot get 4 focus on a warjack. Its really handy if you have a big battle group and not enough focus to pass around or if you are jack marshalling a warjack as it basically doubles the jack marshal ability. He could still be useful since the decimator will demand 3 focus every turn to be effective at shooting. That will not leave harkevich with much to pass out so you could give Ivan the one focus for the single boost.

The decimator is interesting as his shooting is pretty terrible. Range is meh, dmg is pretty good, but his RAT is really really bad. You will realistically only be hitting models that are KD, stationary, or other khador warjacks or colossals unless you boost every shot which basically means that you will always be spending 3 focus on him every turn all the time. His melee is solid though.

If I were in your shoes, I would replace the ternion with Gorman Di Wolfe. His blind grenades are amazing, blind is pretty much the best debuff in the game besides KD/stationary and he applies it in a 3" AOE. It gives a DEF debuff equal to two of the ternions hitting with ice cage on top of a whole slew of really severe effects. Gorman's RAT isnt very good, but, his grenades are AOE3 so you dont actually have to land a hit to...hit.

I pulled off a sweet move in a game against someone. I was running dwarf style highborn with bashers and gorman. Basically, one of the bashers slams an enemy heavy into my opponent's other heavy. knocking them down and sticking them B2B. I then toss a blind grenade ontop of one. The grenade hits easily since they are KD and they both get stuck with Blind which might as well mean they are both useless for a turn. I screened gorman with a wall of forge guard and repeated the same antics next turn. Using a 2 point model to lock out 70% of an enemy army is awesome.

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Gormen sounds nice. How many points is he? and what could I do to make up for it. I like the decimater because he was able to nearly knock out a colossal entire left side, with arm 25 on it.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Gormen sounds nice. How many points is he? and what could I do to make up for it. I like the decimater because he was able to nearly knock out a colossal entire left side, with arm 25 on it.


he is 2 points for sheer bull crap

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So that gives me 3 points to work with.

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If you're running a decimator, you need a reliable way to make your targets stationary or knock them down (or you need to have a really high focus caster... like FOC 10... considering that the Old Witch no longer is FOC 10 (DAMN YOU PP!!!) that won't happen...). If you're going colossal hunting, it generally wont be an issue (Average is DEF 10 IIRC), Greylord Ternions can lower focus/make targets stationary for you to make things more likely, greylord outriders can make things stationary, etc. etc. You have to support them well, its generally not worth it to do so though.

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That is why i like them, they can lower defense and if i get lucky and all 3 ice cages hit the target is stationary.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Gormen sounds nice. How many points is he? and what could I do to make up for it. I like the decimater because he was able to nearly knock out a colossal entire left side, with arm 25 on it.


Alot of our jacks can knock out half a colossal. A juggarnaught will do everything a decimator can do against hard targets. Actually it sorta does it better since it has 2 melee attacks and it's axe is higher power than the saw. I dont think the decimator is a very good option for harkevich. He just doesnt have the focus to hand out to it to make it's shooting worth while and it's melee isnt as good as many of our other warjacks. I would rather take a spriggan or a second destroyer or a behemoth (all in addition to ivan ofc).

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So there is no way to make the decimator work :( I kinda like him.
Oh well, I love the spriggan.

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I tried to make the decimator work a few times but in the end, I always found that other options just do everything he does better. Its really the low RAT that kills it, I mean, a destroyer has much higher range, arcing fire, and AOE 3 but loses the extra shot and beat back, woopty do. You cant stick enough focus on him to get two really effective shots anyway. If his RAT was 5 or 6 like other factions single target shooty jacks, then he would be worth playing - honestly, compare him to a defender *eyeroll*, we dont even have shooting buffs and the defender STILL outshines a decimator.

Spriggans, on the other hand, are freakin awesome. They are a giant, durable, murderous, toolbox of death. They are one of our few jacks that have reach, they hit hard and their grenades are one of the only things we have that bypasses stealth. The grenades arent that great with harkevich's shooting buffs, but they can clear light infantry and knock out stealth so that Ivan can shoot at least. I run spriggans alot with pIrusk since superiority is sick nasty on them. They never let me down.

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Well for a point extra I guess I can get a spriggan.
Guess I will have to let my decimator just look cool

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Convert it into the Torch! Thats what I did with mine anyway...

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I suppose. I just neeed to find the other(Which may be gone by now


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Ok here is the new one(I have few of these models TBH.
Harkevich
Black Ivan
Spriggan
Sylys
IFP with UA
gormen Di wolfe
Iron fang Kovnik
widow makeer marksmen

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