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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 02:19:54
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Sup Dakka, im pretty much brand new to FoW though i am a veteran of WWII history. Hopefully my knowledge has paid off in some manner with writing my first LW list from Grey Wolf
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Gepanzerte panazergrenadierkompanie HQ
Panzerfaust 10
AT-Section 45
115
Troop
2x Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Platoon
Panzerafust x2 20
3.7cm Half-Track Free
460
Support
Gepanzerte Panzerpionier Platoon
Panzerfaust 10
Stuka zu Fuss x3 105
380
Panzer IV H Platoon x3 Tanks
270
PzGn AT Gun Platoon (Pak 40) x3 guns
155
Heavy AA Gun Platoon 1x 88
Extra crew 10
95
Total 1475
Any and all advice/kind criticism welcome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 06:42:20
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Painting Within the Lines
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For a new player to FOW I think that's a tough list to play with. You've got to have a really good understanding of assaults to use the Gepanzertes.
If you are set on running them, then I think you need to carefully consider how you are going to both Smoke and Pin your enemy (provided it infantry of course)
If I were you, I'd look to start with a fairly generic infantry company, then add some flavour as you get experienced at assaulting, using smoke, pinning, stormtrooper, etc
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FOW: Soviet - Tankovy
Infinity: Aleph
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 07:04:00
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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1st Lieutenant
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Hi and welcome!
Is this the Gepanzerte Panzergrenadierkompanie from grey wolf?
If so you've chosen a nice balanced army!
There are a couple of things I would personally change, the Stuka zu fuss I'm not a big fan of.
But more importantly any list in Fow (IMHO) is recon and smoke - you'll discover why once you play - but basically helps with ambushes and not being shot!
I'd think of this list
Hq
2 platoons of three section of panzer grenadiers - command with Faust
1 platoon of three section panzer pioneer with a Faust
3 Pak 40's
Half tracked Panzerspah platoon (1 section)
2 15cm nebs (rocket launcher battery)
4 panzer 4's
1505 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 13:31:20
Subject: Re:Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Hi, I'm very new to FoW as well, and I have seen this advice quite often (smoke and recon). I get the reason for smoke but could you explain further why recon is so important?
Thanks.
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"I have seen war in all its forms. I have seen feral world savages braining each other with stones and I have monitored the death of a whole planet at the hands of a virus bomb. I have seen Space Marines drop to certain death and win. I have seen Titans crush whole platoons underfoot.
But there is no more stirring sight in war than the charge of massed cavalry."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 15:43:47
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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1st Lieutenant
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Recon has two uses really.
Firstly when you're attacking the enemy they can push back the range in which ambushes can happen, basically keeping them safe.
The other reason is they can lift 'gone to ground' when a unit is concealed and hiding they are 'gone to ground' and harder to hit. So lifting 'gone to ground' means the enemy is 1 easier to hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 18:05:46
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Painting Within the Lines
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Recon is also good for harassing the enemy, giving them something to think about/waste shots on.
As long as your recon don't shoot and have cover, they are also 'gone to ground' even if they move.
Then when your opponent thinks, yeah I'll have a crack, they 'disengage' meaning your opponent gets to fire one shot, the Recon moves and the remaining shots are taken.
However, as Reaver83 said, mostly used for lifting gtg.
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FOW: Soviet - Tankovy
Infinity: Aleph
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 19:43:50
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Got it, thanks guys.
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"I have seen war in all its forms. I have seen feral world savages braining each other with stones and I have monitored the death of a whole planet at the hands of a virus bomb. I have seen Space Marines drop to certain death and win. I have seen Titans crush whole platoons underfoot.
But there is no more stirring sight in war than the charge of massed cavalry."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 13:52:03
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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So what is better. Rocket artillery, Armored rocket artillery or standard gun batteries. I changed the list a little, dropped the pioneers and added 4 Panzerwerfer 42s with crew.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 16:48:51
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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1st Lieutenant
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Nebelwerfers are probably the most cost effective artillery in the game, they smoke, they have a decent firepower and are cheap! The armoured ones, i think look very cool, but get expensive imho.
German artillery never really sets me on fire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 00:05:55
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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I also went ahead and dropped in two LelG18s to fill a 70 or so point gap. Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 07:40:43
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Irked Necron Immortal
Columbia, South Carolina
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They're a solid smoke unit. Make sure you hide them well as the rest of army is ideally charging down the field.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 13:38:29
Subject: Help with Newb LW German List
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Awesome. I'll post the revised list shortly. Don't want to type it out on my phone :-P
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