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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 00:59:51
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Terrifying Wraith
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This is a project that I want to built for the next few years (money pit) and I want to have a WWI: a lot of troops and cheap weapon. For now, this is my core (1470 pts and i have a few pts for option) and I dont have enough pts for now to use the Forlone Hope (for now).
I know this not a competitive list and I'm not a IG player (I played SM and CSM).
HQ
1 quatermaster 75 pts
Elite
3x hydra 225 pts
2x 10 engineer squad 260 pts
-carcass, demolition charge, hades
Troops
10x grenadier 130 pts
10x grenadier 130 pts
Infantry platoon
1x command squad 50 pts
10x infantry squad 70 pts
10x infantry squad 70 pts
10x infantry squad 70 pts
Heavy
2x heavy weapon platoon
3x tw heavy stubber 75 pts
3x tw heavy stubber 75 pts
4 heavy mortars 240 pts
-carcasse
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 04:11:12
Subject: Re:trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Douglas Bader
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So you automatically lose against vehicles. Is this ok with you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 08:39:58
Subject: Re:trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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So you automatically lose against vehicles. Is this ok with you?
seeing everything is packing Krak grenades and he has 2 hades with Melta cutters you might want to re-state that, A vehicle heavy list, yeah, he might have a bit of trouble, but a few vehicles can be dealt with. Spending the extra points on meltas/melta bombs would help but to say auto lose is going a bit too far. Heavy mortars stop light vehicles too, str 6 ordnance isn't too bad on 10/11 side armour.
Maybe dropping the engineers to 5 man squads could spare some points, spares the 'damn' factor if the drill dies too. Carcass shell have not done it for me either, gain vs loss doesn't work out.
Aegis line for the mortars/hydras will increase their surviveability too
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~ Krieg 6k
~ Necrons 2.5k
~ Space Wolves 5K
~ :Khorne CSM 2k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 10:10:35
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Quad guns are pretty nice, and would probably fit into the army theme.
Why Grenadiers and not another platoon?
3 Hydras seems a bit overkill.
The rapiers are probably against your army theme, aren't they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 11:39:58
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Terrifying Wraith
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I have 500 pts to think about the tank and I did't set my mind for tanks (medusa, thunderer, leman russ) or flyer. Downsizing the engineers to 5 will be good after a few plays and removing one or two Hydra will give me two more platoons.
DrunkPhilisoph wrote:Quad guns are pretty nice, and would probably fit into the army theme.
Why Grenadiers and not another platoon?
3 Hydras seems a bit overkill.
The rapiers are probably against your army theme, aren't they?
Grenadiers is for small pts games and use them for allies with the heavy mortars. If I have it, use it even I know is a pts sink hole. The rapiers don't goes again my theme. I used them with my SM army and I want to do something different. I can use HWS with 3 lasecannon for the same cost of 2 rapiers.
That the problem when your starting something new. What is too much and what I miss. I can remove the HWS for thudd guns, tanks of flyers. Tooooo much option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 21:00:33
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Look at a spec weapons upgrade pack to make changes to your grenadiers or engineers as to throw some flexible AT or AP2 in the fray. They may not get to fire but will cause the opponent to consider where he puts his vehicles and allow you to dictate how some of the battle goes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 21:42:41
Subject: Re:trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Terrifying Wraith
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Mmmmm, use some meltagun with the engineers with hades and enjoy the sweat on your opponent face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 02:57:18
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Meltaguns on engineers is too late for anti-tank. they are in turn 3 at the earliest and turn 5 the latest. the 50 points you spend on engineers is really there to get the drill in with its melta cutter. The engineers are to deny objectives late game mostly.
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~ Krieg 6k
~ Necrons 2.5k
~ Space Wolves 5K
~ :Khorne CSM 2k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 06:47:21
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Flamers on your IS's would be valuable for being charged or assaulting so consider them a win win item. What do you normally face?
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if a dolphin will jump out of water for fish, just imagine what it would do for chips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 19:39:24
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Terrifying Wraith
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badgermeister wrote:Flamers on your IS's would be valuable for being charged or assaulting so consider them a win win item. What do you normally face?
I played mostly again MEQ, Eldar and Necron. I need to add some leman russ (executioner and vanquisher) or thunderer again tanks. For the troops, mass shooting and the heavy mortar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 20:15:48
Subject: trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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I've only just started playing with my krieg after collecting since the beginning of the year and the thunderer has proven to be awesome as its not been popped so far and it's first shot took out lucius and 5 berserkers. I will be investing in more thudd guns and running an infantry heavy list like yourself but without the heavy weapons squads. I'll be throwing in MBs , flamers and lots of death riders and ally in heavy artillery. I have grenadiers for smaller point games but will be moving towards 3 x 2 IS's + PCS for full value on the respawn
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if a dolphin will jump out of water for fish, just imagine what it would do for chips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 20:39:21
Subject: Re:trying the Krieg assault brigade
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Terrifying Wraith
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For a low pts game or allied, I made a simple list (quatermaster, 2x grenadiers squad and 4 heavy mortars with carcass).
For the HWS, heavy stubber because is twin links and they look good (ok, fluff, I know the HB and autocannon are better ) and max it with 3 lasecannon.
Looking how the game are played in 6ed with the objective, I hope to hold the objectives a long time with the help of the Forlon Hope to fill the heavy casualty. Hades and engineers to contest the objective at turn five. That mean not taking a CCS but another quatermaster cadre or two CCS with quatermaster.... tough choice.
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