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Hey guys,

this is the base that should not be changed (at least not by a lot). I basically think of three different options to add on top of that list and I'd like to get some feedback on each of 'em if possible - thanks in advance!

Basis:



Option A
2x Triarch Stalker

Option B
3x Destroyers
3x Heavy Destroyers

Option C
5x Tomb Blades
10x Scarabs

Total: 1850 pts

Thanks for any comments and advice on the options, I really appreciate it!

Option B is the best of the 3, but I feel all 3 are kinda weak.

Its not that destroyers are weak (I rather like them myself), its that heavy destroyers are unnecessary in a list that has so many warriors.

Also, your list is illegal, you can't give a 20 man blob a ghost ark.

Killme304 wrote:
Also, your list is illegal, you can't give a 20 man blob a ghost ark.

You obviously can't embark on the Ghost Ark, but there's nothing that says you can't buy the Ghost Ark for that unit.

Killme304 wrote:
Option B is the best of the 3, but I feel all 3 are kinda weak.

Its not that destroyers are weak (I rather like them myself), its that heavy destroyers are unnecessary in a list that has so many warriors.

Also, your list is illegal, you can't give a 20 man blob a ghost ark.

It's perfectly legal

The unit cannot embark on it, and isn't supposed to do so either, they have been (and still are) marching on foot, constantly being covered and supplied by the two Ghost Arks. The problem with Warriors is their extremely short range, especially template weapons can wreck havoc on huge blobs whereas a danger zone of 48'' can provide cover for your infantry.

Scarabs, on the other hand, are another extremely good anti-vehicle unit and can also tarpit or protect other units and have recently received a considerable buff. Tomb Blades might be good, tempted to try 'em out.

Triarch Stalkers are awesome models and buff both my Warriors and my Immortals, but might be overpriced, yet they provide more AV 13.

That's why I asked for comments, ideas etc. - it's hard to decide

...and yes, neither is a very strong competitive list, but as a TruCron player, I despise of using any sort of flyer.

I would say two stalkers are overpriced for this list. I love the stalker and have been running it in a new list.

I tend to take destroyers over tomb blades. Base cost they might be cheaper but to get the 3+ save.. you have to pay for it.. to get the better weapon.. you have to pay for it... destroyers still have more firepower and preferred enemy.

I would likely mix and match. A stalker and 10 scarabs perhaps. You get all the tl from the stalker and still the firepower of the scarabs.

or Stalker and 3 heavy destroyers.... TL s9 ap2 shots.. that wound on 2's in most cases... with preferred emeny to re roll the 1s..

I run a list with a near identicle core to yours.

I ran tesla immortals for a long time, and they never really performed well, and can't be brought back with the ark.

I would change out the immortals for more warriors and add a annihilation barge.

I know you don't like flyers, but one of my favorite tactics is to use a scythe to drop 15 warriors pretty much anywhere on the table and unload with rapid fire shots. The unit can statistically put out enough glances to drop nearly any vehicle, and if even 1 model survives the turn, the arks replenish the unit. I run 2 units like that as well as the 20 man blob with nemesor and a 5 man unit riding in one of the arks.