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Hi, looking at an Ork army to get into warhammer 40k, shoota boyz look really fun and are avaliable cheaply. Here are my ideas please critique them...

500 Points

Not sure on an HQ - 60 points available...

220 - Shoota Ork Boyz (Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole)

220 - Shoota Ork Boyz (Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole)

1000 Points

Again not sure on an HQ - 110 points available this time

220 - Shoota Ork Boyz (30) Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole

220 - Shoota Ork Boyz (30) Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole

225 - Lootas (15)

225 - Lootas (15)

So what do you think? Both seem like a fun list (the 1000 point is an expansion on the 500 point list), lots of dice to roll and that's why i'm getting into 40k...
I was thinking flyers instead of the second lootas mob....? - Thanks

For a low cost, all-around decent HQ, go Big Meks. One with a Kustom Force Field and a 5++ is 95 points, and go be put in the middle of a blob of Shoota Boyz to protect them. Speaking of Shoota Boyz, I think sinking 90 points into a single unit at such a low-point list is wasteful. 15 boyz with Shootas is only 90 points, and if you replace on with a Nob using the weapons you mentioned, it's 125 points. I usually don't like Nobz in my Shoota squads, however, because a Nob can't really be kitted out to support the squad well.

So, with a Shoota squad of 15 and a KFF Big Mek, that's only 185 points. Put in a squad of assault Boyz with a Nob for 125 points, and you're at 310 points. So what can you do with 190 points?

-You can always take more Boyz. An assault squad will leave you 60 points, and a Shoota squad will leave you 100.
-Looted Wagons ROCK. With a Boomgun and an 'Ard Case, it only costs 120 points and will wreck several days with 70 points left to spare.
-Lootas. 'nuff said. 5 will run you 75 points with 115 left over, while 10 will cost 150 points and leave 40.

Other options:

-You can always take two Shoota squads if you wish, and leave 225 points free.
-Warbikers with a Warboss instead of a Big Mek.
-Put the Big Mek with some grots and give him a Shokk Attack Gun. Watch the hate fly.

Hope this helps!

With the standard missions you almost always want 3.5 units of troops.
So at 500 points I would consider taking 3 squads of trukk boys w/ nob, big choppa, and boss pole I believe is 127 each. Grab yourself a kff big mek and 10 gretchin and you have a very versatile 500 point list.

@ 1000 pts for a TAC list you can have 3 squads of 30 boys w/ nob, choppa for about 195 each. Plus the loser gretchin squad in reserve for objective grabbing leaves you about 400 points for Lootas/Dakkajets/HQ/Bikers/Kannons.