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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 03:32:45
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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So I haven't got to play with the new codex yet, but I do have it so point costs should be correct. I am thinking about 2 lists and wanted feedback. C&C are welcome as this is just a first draft.
Chapter Tactics: RavenGuard (its for fluff reasons)
HQ:
Chapter Master ( Artificer Armour, Primarchs Wrath, Power Fist)
Honor Guard x7 (champion has relic blade, Drop Pod)
Elite:
Sternguard x10 (x2 HF, x8 Combi-flamers, Melta bomb, Drop Pod)
Troop:
Tactical Squad x10 ( Melta bomb, combi melta, MM, Meltagun, Drop Pod)
Tactical Squad x10 (Veteran sgt, Melta bomb, HB, Melta Gun, Drop Pod)
Tactical Squad x10 ( Vetern sgt, Melta bomb, HB, Melta Gun, Drop Pod)
Scout Squad x5 (x4 Snipers, x5 Camo Cloaks, ML)
Fast Attack:
Assualt Marines x10 ( Veteran sgt, Lighting Claw, Melta bomb, Grav Pistol, x2 Plasma Pistols)
Storm Talon (Twin Linked Lascannons)
Heavy Support:
Devastator Squad x5 (x2 ML, x2 LC)
Total 1999pts
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HQ:
Chapter Master ( Artificer Armour, Primarchs Wrath, Power Fist)
Captain (Power Axe, Jump Pack)
Honor Guard x6 (champion has relic blade, Drop Pod)
Elite:
Sternguard x10 (x2 HF, x8 Combi-flamers, Melta bomb, Drop Pod)
Troop:
Tactical Squad x10 ( Melta bomb, combi melta, MM, Meltagun, Drop Pod)
Tactical Squad x10 (Veteran sgt, Melta bomb, HB, Melta Gun, Drop Pod)
Tactical Squad x10 ( Veteran sgt, Melta bomb, HB, Melta Gun, Drop Pod)
Fast Attack:
Assualt Marines x10 ( Veteran sgt, Lighting Claw, Melta bomb, Grav Pistol, x2 Plasma Pistols)
Storm Talon (Twin Linked Lascannons)
Heavy Support:
Devastator Squad x5 (x2 ML, x2 LC)
Total: 2000
Hope my math is correct. And I hope you enjoy.
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2013/09/09 09:22:44
Carcharodon Astra, by the Emporer it is willed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 00:44:32
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Nothing?
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Carcharodon Astra, by the Emporer it is willed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 07:32:55
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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If you're going to use raven guard chapter tactics then you might want to take more assault marines to take advantage of the rules.
Your current list looks like it would be better suited with salamanders.
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  Craftworlds Eldar: 8500
Dark Eldar: 1000
Harlequins: 1000
Raven Guard: 1500
Tyranids: 1500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 10:48:15
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Been Around the Block
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It's neither a Raven Guard list fluff- nor rules-wise (with the exception that you take their CT).
Add more Assault Marines or Vanguards, Scouts.
I don't know if Honour Guard does so well in a drop pod? After arrival they will sit one round waiting to Assault doing nothing but eating dust. Better take an Assault Vehicle for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 14:01:05
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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I agree with those above, but I would run this as Iron Hands or Imperial fists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 21:38:56
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Thank you for your suggestions. I Will admit that I wasn't sure about the honor guard. I could substitute these with terminators of any of the flavors available, centurions, or another dev squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 08:12:36
Subject: Re:New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Personally I would swap them (commd squad) for the vanguard to keep it in with the fluff. Plenty of jump packs. Stick a jump pack on your Chapter master (if he is able, no Rules with me) and you have a hard hitting unit. Give them storm shields and they will last a bit longer aswell. Id also consider finding the points to put Flakk missiles on any/all ML just to get a bit more anti air, can never have enough in my eyes. You could also switch out a couple of drop pods for Rhinos to utilise the scout rule. Scout the rhinos up the board and follow them up with drop pods and jump packs. Or the other way around to give the rhino a bit of cover.
You are quite light on anti air aswell if you get necron boomerangs or Heldrakes in high numbers you will struggle a bit.
But that just what I would do and what do I know, I play SW  soon to be Raven Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 11:06:50
Subject: New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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Fluff wise,replace the tacs with scout squads or assault marines, take out the devestators, give your HQs jumpacks, take another stormtalon and maybe reconsider the sternies(their combis alone cost around 80pts) and add a rhino maybe
Competitive wise, follow exactly as above, but with the sternies(with less combis). Men up scouts to 10men, try to fit in another flyer and razorback
Hope you found this somewhat useful.
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I have been toying about with the idea of 3 10men sternie squad w/combi weapons with Pedro, chappie and a librarian with null zone and done shield all in drop pod |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 11:18:51
Subject: Re:New 2000pts Space Marines (Raven guard successors)
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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I agree with the above.
With the amount of Flamer and Melta weapons this looks more like a Salamanders army.
For the Raven Guard you really need more Vets and Assaulters, and at least 1 10 man Scout squad.
I agree on the Honour Guard, too. Drop Podding them in will just result in a meaty target right on your opponent's welcome mat as they can't assault that turn and therefore avoid being shot up.
Your idea for Terminators is probably better but if so then you will need those scouts, move them up after deployment, get them in some cover then use the Teleport Homer to bring in the Termies right were you want them.
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