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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 05:36:16
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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This is my idea for a Black Legion with Chaos Space Marine allies army for mainly Zone Mortalis, Cities of Death and Planet Strike games though It would end up being used for alot of normal 40k games. Its not meant to be massively competitive as why it has alot of units that are based more on looks than efficiency.
I realise though it has a very low model count at about 45 and no transports, which may be a problem wouldn't mind cutting it back right down to 2000 points as well, all ideas welcome
Black Legion
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Daemon Prince 180
o Daemon of Tzeentch
o Power Armour
Chaos Lord 145
o Power Fist
o Combi-melta
o Sigil of Corruption
o Mark of Tzeentch
o Veteran of the Long War
Elite
Chaos Dreadnought 110
o Power Scourge
Noise Marines x 8 224
o Champions: Power Sword
o Champions: Doom Siren
o Sonic Blaster x6
o Blast Master
o Veterans of the Long War
Troop
Chosen Squad (Dark Vengeance Squad) x7 245
o Champion: Power Maul
o Champion: Melta Bomb
o Lightening Claws
o Power Fist
o Power Axe x2
o Veterans of the Long War
Chosen Squad (Sons of Horus Reaver Squad) x7 230
o Champion: Power Axe
o Champion: Melta Bomb
o Power Fist
o Power Axe
o Flamer
o Icon of Vengeance
o Veterans of the Long War
Chosen Squad (Dark Angles Fallen) x5 164
o Champion: Plasma Pistol
o Champion: Power Sword
o Plasma Gun x2
o Veterans of the Long War
Heavy Support
Obliterators x3 219
o Veterans of the Long War
Black Legion Total: 1532
Chaos Space Marine Allies
HQ
Sorcerer 105
o Sigil of Corruption
o Mark of Tzeentch
Troop
Thousand Sons x9 242
Elite
Chaos Decimeter Daemon Engine 240
o Butcher Cannon
o Mark of Tzeentch
Chaos Space Marine Allies Total: 587
Combined Total: 2104
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 07:23:54
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Firstly I never like putting powerfists on my IC it wastes their generally higher I value and with t4 and 4+ inv ideally needs to be striking first as often as possible. Secondly can chaos ally with chaos because on allies table it doesnt give the choice?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 07:45:27
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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I agree with about Power Fist generally, but its on an old metal Lord so I can't really change it unless I want to buy a new model as I've tried to counter the low I with MoT for a 3++ inv
Pretty sure Black Legion Supplement can ally with CSM codex not 100% sure though if anyone knows otherwise
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/13 07:45:53
(' ');1750Elysian Inquisitional D-99 Task Force
(' ');1750 Red Scorpions
3500 HH Ordo Reductor
3000 HH Iron Warriors
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 08:05:14
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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assuming with playing ZM you may have gamers using FW models as part of their lists you may see rapiers and contemptors against you?
do you have anything to DS in behind them - i'm not familiar with the rules but have seen grav cannons used on a ZM game almost halt an assault at the HH weekender in May. High iniative is a bonus with the reaction fire rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 09:19:34
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Be careful with the dreadnought and Daemon Prince, in some places they may get stuck, and personally I'd take some terminators instead of some of the chosen.
Also, Spawn are quite under rated, give them the mark of Nurgle and for 36 points your moving 12 inches up the board a turn, with 3 wounds toughness 6 and up to 8 attacks on the charge. (Rage) a squad of 5 of these could be destructive, but underestimated
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Iron warriors - 6500 pts WIP
necrons 1700 pts WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 09:43:47
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Thats a very valid point about doorways and 60mm bases.
I could drop the Reaver Chosen squad for some Terminators as that would also give me a unit besides the Obliterators that can deepstrike, spawn/possessed are also an option I guess for some speed
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(' ');1750Elysian Inquisitional D-99 Task Force
(' ');1750 Red Scorpions
3500 HH Ordo Reductor
3000 HH Iron Warriors
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 22:47:50
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
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BL CSM can all with CSM. You should also give your DP wings or chaos artefacts, if not I'd probably get rid of him for that extra 180 points
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"Oh hello there Eldar and fellow brethren Space Marines, take a seat and let me play you the music of my people"- Band Slaanesh, the Rock and Roll of 40k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/13 23:49:42
Subject: Re:2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Since you're running with Black Legion you ought to take advantage og some of the awesome artefacts.
Drop the Powerfist on your lord and give him the Hand of Darkness instead. Strikes on Initiative with S8,AP1 and cause Instant Death. Or (since you already run the Tzeentch theme, try the Crusible of Lies. Sure it's -1 Toughness, but now you re-roll 1's on Invul saves! And as long as he's not in a Challenge, he'll benefit from Majority Toughness of his unit anyway.
For your Prince I'd consider the Skull of Ker'ngar for the Eternal Warrior.
I would drop him, though, for a Sorcerer. ML3, Bike, Familiar and the last Memory cost exactly the same, but is way more fun, and useful in a city. Remember a Nova doesn't need Line of Sight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/15 11:21:15
Subject: 2000P Chaos Space Marine Zone Mortalis List
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Thanks for the help guys, think I'm going to sit on it for a while still while I finish my Red Scorpions.
I like the idea of a Sorcerer on a bike, will probably add him in, maybe replace the lord and will certainly figure out an artifact for the Daemon Prince
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/15 22:20:51
(' ');1750Elysian Inquisitional D-99 Task Force
(' ');1750 Red Scorpions
3500 HH Ordo Reductor
3000 HH Iron Warriors
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