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Chapter Master: Space Marine bike; The Shield Eternal; auspex; artificer armour; power fist. 250
Librarian: Space Marine bike; Psyker (Mastery Level 2). 110
• Command Squad: Apothecary; Space Marine bikes; Chapter Banner; 5× grav-gun. 240

10 Tactical Marines: Space Marine Sergeant (combi-plasma); plasma gun; plasma cannon. 180
• Rhino 35
10 Tactical Marines: Space Marine Sergeant (combi-plasma); plasma gun; plasma cannon. 180
• Rhino 35
10 Tactical Marines: Space Marine Sergeant (combi-plasma); plasma gun; plasma cannon. 180
• Rhino 35

Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher. 125

Predator: twin-linked lascannon; sponson lascannons. 140
Predator: twin-linked lascannon; sponson lascannons. 140
Stormraven Gunship: twin-linked lascannon; twin-linked multi-melta. 200

1,850 points

My Champter Master and Telepathy Libby will be with the command squad with the CM tanking.

My friend said not enough anti horde and suggested dropping a pred for a thunderfire but what do you guys think?

Thanks in advance for all your input!

You could swap the raven for another talon to get your tfc. Or you could take a whirlwind to help with armour saturation.

I don't really want to drop the raven because it goes extremely well with IWND and do you think whirlwinds really do enough to be worth taking?

You can't have 5x Grav-Guns and an Apothecary in the Command Squad. Only a Veteran may select weapons from the "Ranged Weapon" list and an "Apothecary" is not a "Veteran".

Unfortunately, you have to choose between the 5th weapon and the narthecium/redactor. I vote apothecary is worth it every time.

Aww ok then suggestion to do with the additional 15 points? Perhaps melta bombs on tacs?

Chaper master on a bike doesn't unlock a command squad.

Librarian on bike does though

Chapter Master: Space Marine bike; The Shield Eternal; auspex; artificer armour; power fist. 250
Librarian: Space Marine bike; Psyker (Mastery Level 2). 110
• Command Squad: Apothecary; Space Marine bikes; Chapter Banner; 4× grav-gun. 225

10 Tactical Marines: Space Marine Sergeant (combi-plasma); plasma gun; plasma cannon. 180
• Razorback: lascannon; twin-linked plasma gun. 75
10 Tactical Marines: plasma gun; plasma cannon. 170
• Razorback: lascannon; twin-linked plasma gun. 75
10 Tactical Marines: flamer; plasma cannon. 160
• Drop Pod 35

Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher. 125

Predator: twin-linked lascannon; sponson lascannons; dozer blade. 145
Stormraven Gunship: twin-linked lascannon; twin-linked multi-melta. 200
Thunderfire Cannon 100

1,850 points

After a very long conversation with my friend we came up with this.

How does THIS list look?

Don't see why ur hq is on a bike unless your gonna capitalize on bike units, plus do you really need a dozen blade on your predator ? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep it in the back and use it as artillery ? Not meaning to knit pick just saying you could save a few points here and there..

Why have you only got one drop pod? That seems a bit random

Chapter Master: Space Marine bike; The Shield Eternal; auspex; artificer armour; power fist. 250
Librarian: Space Marine bike; Psyker (Mastery Level 2). 110
• Command Squad: Apothecary; Space Marine bikes; Chapter Banner; 4× grav-gun. 225

10 Tactical Marines: plasma gun; plasma cannon. 170
• Razorback: lascannon; twin-linked plasma gun. 75
10 Tactical Marines: plasma gun; plasma cannon. 170
• Razorback: lascannon; twin-linked plasma gun. 75
5 Scouts: 4× sniper rifle; missile launcher; camo cloaks. 84

Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher. 125
Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher. 125

Predator: twin-linked lascannon; sponson lascannons. 140
Thunderfire Cannon 100
Stormraven Gunship: twin-linked lascannon; twin-linked multi-melta; searchlight. 201

1,850 points

Reworked again!!

This is a decent, varied list, but I wouldn't call it competitive.

Space Marine bikes are so much better than space marines in transports in the new codex, it's ridiculous. If it's an issue where you don't have the bike models and can't buy them right now, that's one thing. But you're already putting the points into getting a chapter master on a bike, so why not bike squads as troops?

If the idea is for the librarian to go with the command squad, awesome. My friend plays a squad like that in his bike army and it's a pain in my neck.

But that leaves your CM. If he's ALSO meant to go with the command squad, he's mismatched for it as a CC-oriented character. Give him some biker friends, or take him off the bike and put him with an Honour Guard, Assault Squad, Terminator Assault Squad, or something along those lines.

I think Shield Eternal on a T5 bike is overkill. Against shooting you're unlikely to need the shield to avoid ID, and in melee the T5 won't help against anything that can ID you. But then again, what the heck do I know?

Overall, you have some good units in there, but the list is too scattershot to be really competitive. It's partially gunline, partially mech rush, partially bikes. Pick one thing and do that, is my advice.