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Hey guys,
I'm going to a local tourney next week, and would like to do something better than 0-4 Anyways, the meta is going to be extremely competitive:
Spoiler:
2 CSM with Dragons and obliterators (pretty similar lists, but one plays 2 drakes and 3 nurgle oblies (sorc. and 2*cults) , and the other plays nurgle bike-lord, plasma plague marines, cults, drake and oblies,
1-2 Necrons - one certainly abused croissants, the other, I believe, just added A-barge to his battleforce (deathmarks with Cryptek-flamer inside too)
2 eldar - one plays all-wraith army, the other is just simple avengers+bikeseer+serpents. I have also seen him using Knight, so might expect that.
Dark Eldar venomspam with Wracks.
2 Tau with lots of FW, Fireblade, 2 XV88 and XV104 with freaking FNP and Ion Accelerator - everything with skyfire and intercept as well
3 SM guys with pretty much similar netdecked from local forum armies - 2 Skyhammer Talons, las-autocannon Predator, MoF-biker with beamer, some troops.
Tyranid, my friend - currently 2 Flyrants and a cow.
Maybe 1-2 demons, not really sure, but heard of them
1 to 4 IG - different lists, every has 1-2 vendettas, some play all-vets, some use big platoons with Lord-commisar
And finally, Deathwing DA
Anyways, I am stuck with this meta. I've tried everything - Coteaz with Razorback spam, psycannon spam, all-termies lists, even used my Raven (even though it's 205points from 750). My last list was smth. like that:
HQ Inquisitor Malleus, 3 Skulls, TDA, Psycannon, ML1 - @ 119pts
Troops Termies - Psycannon, hammer, justicar w/ halberd - @ 225pts
GKSS - Psycannon - @ 110pts
Heavy Support Purgators - 2 Psycannons, Teleport Homer @ 145pts + Razorback - Heavy Bolter, Psybolt Ammunition @ 50 pts
Fortifications ADL - Quad-Gun @ 100pts
Total - 749 pts.
Tried to make it maximally invulnerable to drakes - TDAs, all PA boys are in razors (except for GKSS, they pilot quad-gun and babysit point). But it just gets stuck in every other list. Tau just shoot it to pieces (and Riptide overcharges my termies), IG shoot it down with their infinite lasgun fire, Eldar laugh with their 3+ Toughness 6 guys (and S10Ap2 shots). Tyranids fly around and spam their annoying 12-shots, drowning me in gaunts. Dark Eldar are possibly not that dangerous, Psycannons tear their cardboard skimmers to pieces, Razorback helps a lot too. SM are annoying as well, mostly because of their MoF with his blasts and bike (2 flyers and pred make it even worse)
Models are not the case, I've got everything I could possibly use - NDK, SR, Coteaz and Henchies, bunch of PA and TDA boys, Dreads and Razors.
Please, Dakka, help me kit out to everything, I really would like not to swap army in order to win. 6th Ed. op-nonsense makes me sick
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/05 12:27:10
Tbh pal. With a meta like that I can't really see a standard grey knight list getting anywhere, you might have to be dirty and spam dredknights. I'd like to see drakes touch them.
Yeah, I tried smth like that:
Coteaz
2 Warrior Acolytes + Bolters, 3 Inquisitorial Servitors + Plasmacannons in Razorback w/ Psybolts
6 Warrior Acolytes + Bolters in Razorback w/ Psybolts
NDK +HIncinerator
NDK + NGS + HIncinerator
ADL + Quadgun
But it was really hard to deal with 2 flyrants or 2 Talons - just too many, even with ADL. That's why I'm here - maybe I'm doing it wrong and should try smth. else?
Really don't wanna be That Guy, but I see no point in playing without even rare winning.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/11/05 13:02:21
Tbh the quad gun on its own isn't a sufficient AA defense. I've found that the hard way. If I use it at all, I use it as a add on to whatever AA unit I use. Eg with tau, I stick an ethreal in my missles side unit so he can fire the quad gun In addition to my missle sides. Tbh apart from the storm raven gk don't really have good aa so you'd be looking at allies
Yes but if you keep the servitors behind the quadgun they will die easily to all shooting that ignores cover.
With the chimera they are much more protected (i used not to take the chimera, now i never take the servitors without it )
Kinda douchebag-list, but if you look at my LGS army breakdown... OMI here to use Communion - sad thing Coteaz can't do that. Servo-skulls come in handy as well. SR is hard to kill at that amount of points, and two dreadknights, even nude, can do some damage to enemy (though it would be hard to catch them first). Maybe -1 NDK, add incinerator and 100 points of additional Henchmen? Ideas?
