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Alright I am tinkering with the these two lists currently and can not decide on what I want to do.

HQ:
Wazzdakka
7 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

Warboss - PK, attack squig, bike
7 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

Troops:
8 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

4 nob bikers - PK, 2 skorcha, cybork?
1 painboy - Grot orderly

Fast:
2x Dakkajets - 3 Suppashootas, Flyboss

Heavy:
2x Battlewagons - Deffrolla, 2 big shootas

or

HQ:
Wazzdakka
8 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

Warboss - PK, attack squig, bike
8 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

Troops:
8 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

8 Bikers
1 nob - PK, BP

Fast:
2x Dakkajets - 3 Suppashootas, Flyboss

Heavy:
2x Battlewagons - Deffrolla, 2 big shootas


The biggest difference I have is that I have added in a a nob squad of bikers to add as a bullet sponge for wazdakka and the boss. I don't expect them to survive honestly but I feel with 3 very heavy hitting squads of bikes on the field I stand a fairly decent chance of knocking out targets as the wagons will be bricked up in the center to give one of my boy biker squads a greater chance of hitting home. with the nobs off to the side and the remaining bikes fanned out as needed. With a bit of Orky low cunnin I hope to just roll the enemy up as much as possible.What do you all think?

Take Double Warbosses and 2 Nob Biker squads. You will be glad you did.
Regular ork bikers are just not worth it, especially when sm bikers are cheaper and better.

This just seems horribly light to me, with only 2-3 nob squads it cuts over half of my bikers out. Sure I can conga line them and hide behind the wagons but do boy bikers seriously under perform when there are nearly 40 bikers on the field?

As someone who has a 2k PURE Wadakka Ork biker list I say this with some experience.

Ork bikers are bad. Compare their cost to space marine bikes and you will start to cry at how much better they are. If you want to be competitive don't take Wazdakka or regular bikers. No matter how many ifs or buts it won't change the fact that a dual nob biker squad will out perform a points equivalent of regular warbikers in every way.

Kit your nob bikers out for CC. Klaws, BC, banner, etc. and I wouldn't bother with combi weapons.

I like the dakka jets but also consider lootas if you aren't dead set on a speed freaks theme.

BWs with deff rollas I'm not sold on, there needs to be something in them justify their existence otherwise put a kannon on it.

I only run Bad Moonz so, so the jets can change. I would really like to run bombers but I fear they are a giant smoking pile of filth that must never be touched. Only one person plays Orks much and she does not own dakkajets.

 Madcat87 wrote:
As someone who has a 2k PURE Wadakka Ork biker list I say this with some experience.

Ork bikers are bad. Compare their cost to space marine bikes and you will start to cry at how much better they are. If you want to be competitive don't take Wazdakka or regular bikers. No matter how many ifs or buts it won't change the fact that a dual nob biker squad will out perform a points equivalent of regular warbikers in every way.

Kit your nob bikers out for CC. Klaws, BC, banner, etc. and I wouldn't bother with combi weapons.

I like the dakka jets but also consider lootas if you aren't dead set on a speed freaks theme.

BWs with deff rollas I'm not sold on, there needs to be something in them justify their existence otherwise put a kannon on it.

I have seen a BW deff rolla over a good chunk of a screamer star... just throwing that out there. (IIRC)

Here is a new list using these suggestions.

HQ:
2x Warboss - PK, Squig, Bike,

Elite:
4 nob bikers - PK
1 painboy - grot orderly

Troops:
4 nob bikers - PK
1 painboy - grot orderly

4 nob bikers - PK
1 painboy - grot orderly

Fast:
2x Dakkajets - 3 supa shootas, flyboss, RPJ

Heavy:
Battlewagon - Deffrolla, 2 big shootas
10 boyz - Big shoota

Battlewagon - Deffrolla, 2 big shootas
10 boyz - Big Shoota