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Made in gb
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman




UK

Hi. Was wondering if people would look at the below list and give some feedback. I don't play that many games (work comminttments) so do not want an ultra competitive list but would appreciate any feedback on what could be improved for a decent nid list?



HQ Hive Tyrant 250
Wings
Heavy Venom Cannon
Regeneration

Hive Tyrant 280
Wings
Bone swords
Regeneration
Acid Blood
Hive Commander

Troops Termagant Brood
1 X 20 80
1 X 20 80


Hormagaunt Brood
1 X 20 100
1 X 20 100
1 X 20 100

Elites Zoanthrope brood (3) 150

Venomthrope Brood (3) 135

Lictor 50

Fast Attack Gargoyle Brood (30) 180


Heavy Support Carnifex Brood 495
3 with strangle thorn cannons and regeneration

Total 2000

Cheers folks

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/27 16:35:10


 
   
Made in ca
Tough Tyrant Guard






are you seriously paying 90pts for regenerations on your Carnifex unit? ask yourself if its really actually worth 90pts.
Leave it for the 6W MC or FMC for a single cost of 30pts, still expensive if you ask me, even at 20pts i would only consider it every now and then.

I can see your going for alot of regeneration but the issue with regeneration is that it does not work well with the general meta of the game. its already totally to your advantage to focus on something until it dies due the that fact that creatures losing wounds or hullpoints dont get weaker as they get hurt.
MC are something you focus on until they die, likely many MC will have lost no wounds at all then will get completetly shot down in the same turn. sure not all the times but if you do survive after getting shot you only heal 1 wound per MC on a 50% chance per turn. with a relatively heavy condition of actually having lost wounds and survived through a full turn. against people that dont know how regeneration works it could be worth it but I prefer not depending on my opponents ignorance to build a strategy upon especially if its an optionnal and expensive upgrade.

your also leaving the carnifex with the useless single pair of scything talons, even the TL deathspitter is worth more but maybe consider the TL Devourer either as single pair with Stranglethorn cannons or the ever powerfull dakkafex with double TL Devourers!!!

let go of regeneration and you can do alot, start by taking out everything from the flyrants other then 2x TL devourers BLW and wings. makes them a very worthwhile shooter/flyer for 230pts

maybe consider 2 dakkafex and an exocrine instead of 3 carnifexes

I would say if you go for lictors then at least have 3 or 4 on the table or none at all, more venomthropes would be more usefull instead

if your gonna flank some gaunts them you gotta go with teams of at least 25 Termagaunts with 15 devourers inside, devourer are amazing guns if you can get close enough for its range on the whole unit, and flanking can allow this.

for the amounts of gaunts you have I would also recommend more synaps, small warriors squad of 3 with barbed strangler are a worthwhile and relatively durable unit that helps to make sure your gaunts dont just start fleeing off the table for no reason or eating themselves.




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my version of this list would look like this

250 Hive tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourers BLW / Hive Commander
230 Hive tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourers BLW
160 25 Termagaunts / 15x Devourer (Flanking)
100 20x Hormagaunts
100 20x Hormagaunts
80 16x Hormagaunts
100 Warriors / Barbed Strangler
150 3x Zoanthropes
90 2x Venomthropes
90 2x Venomthropes
180 30x Gargoyles
150 1x Carnifex / 2x TL Devourers BLW
150 1x Carnifex / 2x TL Devourers BLW
170 1x Exocrine

More Venomthropes Shouding, much stronger shooting, more synapse.

feels stronger in IMO but do what you want



This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2014/01/28 08:18:23


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Made in gb
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman




UK

Hi! Cheers for the info! Yes I have to agree that if I lose regeneration then I have more points to play with so will play around with the list to see what I can do and will save the list you have attached as I actually like the list you have created. I am still tempted to have one tyrant with close combat ability (ap3 weapons for example) but will see. Thanks again.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/28 09:12:04


 
   
Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






512thReg wrote:
Hi! Cheers for the info! Yes I have to agree that if I lose regeneration then I have more points to play with so will play around with the list to see what I can do and will save the list you have attached as I actually like the list you have created. I am still tempted to have one tyrant with close combat ability (ap3 weapons for example) but will see. Thanks again.


Flyrant is a monstrous creature, so AP2 already off the bat. Bonesword only adds the instant kill.

"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson 
   
Made in gb
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman




UK

Cheers for the heads up on MC and comabt, I made the relevant changes and I have to say the list now looks alright with the increase in synapse and shooting.

 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




IF you wants a CC Flyrant, I run one do to it already being modeled, go with talons and BS+LW or Reaper for the +3I. Tyrant is already S6 so the +1S and Shred may not be worth the 25 points for the Reaper. Then take a throax weapon gets a little pricey but lets you shoot and assualt with out giving up the extra melee.
   
 
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