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So Ive been playing Necrons until now but decided to change things up and try Chaos Marines - So this is my first attempt at a 500 pt list.

Chaos Lord – Terminator, MoN, Lightning Claw

Chaos Terminators 95 pts MoN, Combi-Flamer

Chaos Space Marines x5 MoN, VotLW, Meltagun
Rhino

Chaos Space Marines x5 MoN, VotLW, Meltagun
Rhino

My biggest concern with this list is a lack of dedicated anti-armour.


Also if anyone has any suggestions at where to go from here. What I should do to expand to 1000 pts etc because Im really not sure

Here's my other units

3x Chaos Bikers
Defiler
Land Raider
10x Khorne Berzerkers
5x Raptors

Any suggestions on what else I should look at getting?

From what Ive picked up on the Forum Plague Marines, Obliterators and Havocs seem to be at the top of the list

Loose the defiler, turn it into scenery and cry over how good it could have been, other things are better :(

I would swap the terminators out for take 3 bikes with MoN, give them 2 meltaguns.

The rest is good with the models you have at hand.

If you can dump the marines and take cultists, most of the game times are objective based. Also look at getting a heldrake But thats for later purchases

So are you trying to make a nurgle list or the best list possible?

If you're trying to make this best list possible take 6 heldrakes, typhus, and 5 groups of 35 zombies

If you're trying to make a balanced nurgle list that is fun to play as and against, this website is a terrific guide to each units strengths and weaknesses

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/02/24/tactics-final-chaos-space-marine-breakdown/

As for my opinions, id say the best out there are autocannon havocs, plague zombies, plague marines in rhinos with 2 special weapons, obliterators, baleflamer heldrakes, typhus, biker lords/sorcerers escorted by chaos spawn, raptors/bikers with melta equipment, and tri-las predators.

As you can see, the fast attack section is really bloated with powerful units. No matter what CSM army you make, you generally want to fill out all 3 fast attack slots.

Dark Vengeance is a good place to start.

a 500 point nurgle list id take

Chaos Lord- Mark of Nurgle, brand of skalathrax
Helbrute
10 cultists-shotgun, flamer
10 cultists-heavy stubber, 9 autoguns
7 Plague Marines, rhino, 1 plasma gun (lord goes here)

You can get all that with just the DV kit and a kit of plague marines, and it will all be what you see is what you get, except for the plasma pistol on the lord.

a 1000 point nurgle list id take (this means you're more serious about this army, we're not going to add, but change the list)

Chaos Lord- MoN, bike
4 Chaos Spawn- MoN (Lord goes here)
7 Plague Marines- rhino, 2 plasma guns
7 Plague Marines- rhino, 2 plasma guns
Heldrake- baleflamer
Helbrute

I wouldnt take the helbrute at any point games after 1000, thats where he really starts to lose value. Start to add heavy supports after this point. Lots of havocs and oblits and predators.

Good luck!

Thanks for the help!

Im definitely looking for something fun to play and play against.

I was definitely looking at Nurgle and\or Khorne as the gods of choice for my army.

If you want to mix gods, dont mix them in the same detachment. For example, take nurgle CSM with a khorne CD allied detachment, or khorne CSM with a nurgle allied CD detachment

If you want to make a khorne CSM list, the core of the army is 2 land raiders of zerkers and 2 FMCs.

For example, kharn and 9 zerkers in a raider, 10 zerkers in a raider, a Daemon Prince, and an allied detachment of a blood thirster and 10 bloodletters

This core has proven itself powerful. Daemon Princes assault squads and if they dont kill them outright the zerkers join in. You dont want the zerkers to get overwatched much.

A good nurgle ally would be a GUO, plaguebearers, and plague drones. The GUO is a great distraction, the plaguebeaers are great at holding an objective, and the drones are good at clearing out infantry.

Ok so what im looking at now for a 500 point list would be

HQ –Terminator Lord MoN & Lightning Claw
Troops
5x CSM VotLW, MoN, Meltagun
Rhino (35)
5x CSM VotLW, MoN, Meltagun
Rhino (35)

Fast Attack
3xChaos Bikes – MoN, VoTLW - replace Close combat weapon with 2x Meltagun

This is 1 point over 500 I know but the people Im playing with are ok with that

The other option would be

HQ –Terminator Lord MoN + Lightning Claw
Troops
5x CSM VotLW, MoN, Meltagun
Rhino
5x CSM VotLW, MoN, Meltagun
Rhino

Elite
Helbrute

This list is 5 points shy of 500 so im not sure what (if anything) to do with those remaining points.

Also for the Terminator Lord would it be worth it to choose a MoT for the +1 to the invulnerable save over MoN +1 Toughness?

If you want a fun list, might I suggest a Khorne Lord with the Axe of Blind Fury. If you're not taking Plague Marines you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with that and there is nothing quite as fun as hewing through an entire squad of marines with your lord.