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Fresh-Faced New User



Poland

Hello, I'm new user to DakkaDakka and I need some help. I play WH40k for 2-3 years and still have dilemma when i need to build up army list. Im in love with daemons of Khorne and Tzeentch, so I use only them. Here what I have from daemons:

HQ:
Daemon Prince - Tz, wings
Daemon Prince - Khorne, wings
Skulltaker
Karanak
Herald Tz
Herald Khorne on Juggernaut
Herald Khorne

Troops:
19x Bloodletters
13x Pink Horrors

Fast:
10x Fleshhounds

Elites:
6x Flamers
5x Bloodcrushers

Haevy:
Soul Grinder - Khorne

Mostly I build up army for 1250-1500pts and take:
DP - TZ, 2mlvl, wings, arm, g-reward, e-reward
Karanak
Herald Khorne - Juggernaut, g-reward, some locus
Herald - Tz, locus (+1S spells)
13x Pink Horrors
10-19 Bloodletters
3 Bloodcrushers
5-10 Fleshhounds
3-6 Flamers
Soul Grinder - Khorne, Phlegm

Second DP (with MoK) is new so i never use both DP in game. I planning to buy Lord of Change (then use DP as HS), more Horrors and Bloodletters and Skull Cannon.

What do you think about such army list?
What should I buy in first? Another HQ or troops?
And no - I wont buy Nurgle daemons (for now)
   
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch





You should definitely buy Fateweaver. He's an auto include in most Daemon lists. He'll also unlock the HS slot for Tzeentch princes.

I'd convert up the Khorne Prince as a Tzeentch prince. Not having access to psychic powers really hurts the Khorne Princes.

More Hounds couldn't hurt either; they're amazing for early game pressure.

More Pink Horrors

As far as the list goes, I would pretty much always include the unit of 10 hounds with the Khorne Herald attached. If he's here, his locus is granting +2 attacks on the charge to 10 models instead of 3 with the bloodcrushers I can't speak to the efficacy of Flamers, but seeing that the only scary profile on their shooting attack is heavy I don't think they work all that well. Karanak is pretty overcosted for a glorified khorne hound (albeit his collar is really fun for messing with Seer Councils). You could make a pretty competitive list with either Tzeentch princes backed up by khorne hounds or a ScreamerStar with khorne hounds and Soul Grinders. Other than the hounds, almost all Khorne units are outclassed by similar units of either the Tzeentchian or Slaaneshian persuasion.

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Made in pl
Fresh-Faced New User



Poland

I rather think of buy Lord of Change than Fateweaver. He has better WS, T6, better I and 5 A, but ofc he's not psyker with mlvl 4 and have inv save 5++ (Fateweaver is 4++). Also Fateweaver is 300pts and LoC only 230 and can take additional mlvl and rewards (so he can cost max 305).
Also I'm affraid of insta killing of Fateweaver (T5).

Hmm... thats good idea to convert Khorne DP to Tzeentchian. As long as Khorne units have only +1 additional attack in charge they are weak compared to other gods.

And what about skull cannon? Is it playable?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/27 13:24:06


 
   
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Plaguebearer with a Flu




As stated before, Fateweaver is almost an auto-include when you play Daemons. You can grim him for a 2++ re-rollable. He has access to all of the tzeentch powers as well as a roll on 4 tables. He allows you to re-roll the warpstorm and gives you 1 re-roll per player turn.

Skull Cannon can be used in some situations, but most of the time FMC is not wanting to come down to the ground and assault. They do a better job in the air vector striking and using psy powers for shooting etc. However, the Skullcannon for the hounds? Awesome. If you want to play the skullcannon get some more hounds.

Id say for troops id invest in at least 10 plaguebearers, but if you really want to stick to only Khorne or Tzeentch, id go pink horrors all the way.

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Beast of Nurgle




Belgium

If you want to include both the DP's I would take a LoC so you can count the Tzeentch one as HS and take the second one as HQ, for troops I would stick with bloodletters and pink horrors, but you might wanna take some more troops. Ow and be SURE to include the hounds they are really good, I don't think bloodcrushers will be worth the points but you can try to fit either them in or the flamers

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