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So my local store is doing a very modified Journemy/Progression League. They took out the battegroup only rule and made it you start at 11pts and move up from there under traditional league rules. And have to keep the original 11pts through the whole progression up to 35. My 11pt list was.

Ossyan
-Hypnos
Min Mage Hunter Strike Force
-Mage Hunter Commander

Now my question is for the next point level (15) which of the following do people think would be better.

Ossyan
-Hypnos
Max Mage Hunter Strike Force
-Mage Hunter Commander
-Soulless Escort

OR

Ossyan
-Hypnos
Min Mage Hunter Strike Force
-Mage Hunter Commander
-Soulless Escort
Eiryss2

   
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Thornton-Cleveleys, England

Not sold on the Soulless Escort with the MHSF. He doesn't get the benefit of their Stealth so can easily be picked of by a ranged attack.

For the 4 points you have to choose what about looking at these two

Sylys Wyshnalyrr - Free upkeep for Ossyan and a range buff on non-arc spells and Arcane Secrets
Arcanist - Power Booster, Repair and Concentrated Power makes Hypnos less pillow fisted in Melee.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut



New Zealand

gobbo76 wrote:
Not sold on the Soulless Escort with the MHSF. He doesn't get the benefit of their Stealth so can easily be picked of by a ranged attack.
Arcanist - Power Booster, Repair and Concentrated Power makes Hypnos less pillow fisted in Melee.

I see people worry about this all the time, but the Soulless not having Stealth is not an issue at all. In the vast majority of games the Soulless isn't really that important so it doesn't really matter where he stands, most casters don't have game changing offensive upkeeps/unit clearing nukes and his only other neat trick is his Magical weapon. Strike Force tend to die to blasts or things which ignore Stealth anyway (which kills the Soulless the same way) so its only really stuff that bounces like Chain Lightning which can be a problem. If your opponent does have serious nukes or stuff which can bounce off the Soulless to hit your Stealthed Strike Force then all you need to do is put the Soulless 8-9" off the back of the unit, he still does his job with no major downside (its not like he is getting off amazing charges with Strike Force anyway).

But yeah either way the correct answer to fill out 1pt in Ret is almost always an Arcanist (until you hit FA) - the second you get above a battlebox game you want 1 and even having 2 for a single jack is fine.
   
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Woops! I just realized I botched the posted list. I have an Arcanist in the list already.
   
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Domine Nox wrote:
Woops! I just realized I botched the posted list. I have an Arcanist in the list already.


Well, that's good. He's a pretty useful model.

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