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Portland

I think the title says it? The bikers look like a lot of fun, but I'm curious how viable a list of them would be or, if it isn't, what a good, bike-heavy list would look like.

I'm quite new to the game, so feel free to shut the idea down, just playing with the viability of it since pretty models are more fun to play with (if they don't get blown off the table).

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I'm also fairly new but if you want to do a hundred percent Kum I'd worry about the lack of anti-armour; your only anti-heavy-infantry/TAG tools are close combat weapons and one Panzerfaust. There's also the issue that anyone with a number of MSV/speculative fire/mobile folks that can ignore the smoke are going to shoot you to pieces before you get anywhere near melee with all your scary melee folks.

A Kum element as part of a larger list looks like it'd be awesome, but I think all-Kum or even mostly-Kum looks too one-dimensional. On the bright side they're inexpensive enough that you can take Kasym, the Twins, and one or two others and have plenty of points for other stuff.

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Norn Queen






It's been done.

According to him, it's got issues, but not insurmountable. Apparently at that tournament he won about half his games. I think the biggest issue would be no order pool - which he said he got around with coordinated orders. That won't be as usable now, as you'll be able to do it a maximum of 4 times. Another pitfall will be zero specialists for objectives.
   
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Kelne





Warsaw, Poland

I've been running something like thsi lately, after switching from Bahram to regular Haqqislam. I think 3 bikes is the most you'd want, tbh.

Spoiler:
Haqqislam Points : 300 SWC : 5 Orders : 15 Troopers : 16
NAFFATÛN
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 13 11 11 14 1 3 1 2
4x NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower Pistol, Knife 0 13
DJANBAZAN TACTICAL GROUP
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-2 14 12 11 14 3 0 1 2
Multispectral Visor L2Multiterrain, Regeneration
DJANBAZAN HMG Pistol, Knife 1.5 35
HUSSEIN AL-DJABEL, HASSASSIN FIDAY
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 23 12 13 15 1 0 1 2
Basic Impersonation, Kinematika L1, Martial Arts L4, Multiterrain, Religious Troop
AL-DJABEL Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife 0 35
HAFZA UNIT
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 13 12 10 14 2 0 1 2
Holoprojector L1
HAFZA Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun Pistol, Knife 0 16
JANISSARIES
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 15 13 14 14 4 3 2 2
Religious Troop
JANISSARY HMG Pistol, CCW 2 40 1
HUNZAKUT
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 13 11 12 14 0 0 1 2
CH: Camouflage, Infiltration, Multiterrain
HUNZAKUT (Forward Obs., Dep. Rep.) A/p Mines, Rifle + L. Shotgun Pistol, Knife 0 18


GHULAM INFANTRY
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
4-4 13 11 10 14 1 0 1 2
GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun Pistol, Knife 0 16
GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun Pistol, Knife 0.5 20
NASMAT REMOTES
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS STR S
6-4 8 8 10 13 0 3 1 1
CH: Mimetism, G: Servant
NASMAT Electric Pulse 0 3 1
SHIHAB REMOTES
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS STR S
6-4 8 11 10 13 0 3 1 3
360° VisorG: Remote Presence, Total Reaction
SHIHAB REMOTE HMG Electric Pulse 1 25
KUM MOTORIZED TROOPS
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
8-6 20 11 13 14 1 0 1 4
MotorcycleKinematika L2, V: Dogged
KUM Smoke Grenades, Smoke LGL, Chain Rifle Pistol, AP CCW 0 10
KASYM BEG, KUM CHIEFTAIN
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
8-6 23 12 14 14 2 0 1 4
MotorcycleKinematika L2, V: Dogged
KASYM BEG Chain Rifle, Panzerfaust, Smoke Grenades, Smoke LGL Pistol, EXP CCW 0 16
ZULEYKA NAZAROVA, KUM ENFORCER
MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W S
8-6 22 11 13 14 1 0 1 4
MotorcycleKinematika L2, V: Dogged
ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower (2), Smoke Gr, Smoke LGL Breaker Pis (2), DA CCW 0 14
   
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Krazed Killa Kan





SoCal

It's not all death rides everywhere.

In fact, if you use their smoke which can be used on the impetuous order, and use deployment to limit where they drive, they will survive more often than not. This is because the high target number they have when launching or throwing a smoke grenade.

I can easily see running 4 normal bikers, and Kasym as the LT. Use the point and SWC savings to arm up some Ghulams in the back, or Halqa that move up behind the smoke wall to take objectives.

   
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Norn Queen






The main problem you're going to find with fitting Kum into a normal list if you're only going to fit a couple in before it starts to be a hindrance on your points. They're cheap, but when you get up to 4 or 5, and if you're mixing the weapon options up a bit and not going all Chain Rifles, you'll start to rack up points. Ideally you'll want them in their own combat group with a couple of other cheap cheerleaders like Naffatun to give you a little order flexibility, but that can easily hit 100pts.

That doesn't leave you much to play with for a second combat group if you want to include more than up-gunned line infantry. Which is fine for a SpamIslam list, but if you want to start bringing the more specialised light infantry or medium/heavy infantry, the points just won't be there.
   
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Charging Dragon Prince





Sticksville, Texas

Twenty bikes, all the time... Yes. Want it so badly, can't decide on that or a six biker JSA list. If it is going to be your fun army, do it. Just have some other models to use for scenario missions or tournaments.
   
 
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