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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 19:24:17
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Fixture of Dakka
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There's a wargames show coming up next week that some friends have a stall booked at in the bring and buy sale. They're asking if anyone else has stuff they want to bung in on it to make up the space. Enough people have asked me here and in person to start selling the terrain that I make, so I'm pondering punting some stuff along there. Trouble is I have no idea what price to ask, and that when usually selling stuff I deliberately undercut myself just to get rid of it most of the time.
So here's my query, how much would you say something like this was worth? Its the shack that I put together for a tutorial here, but I'll be making ones new to that specification to sell (I can make larger ones too if variety would help). That and also would giving them interiors make them more attractive to buy/ worth more? At the moment I think I can probably manage four a night from start to finish, with the base parts cost coming up to roughly £7 for four. The plan is for them to come in at 4.5 by 6 inches across, a bit bigger than a GW Rhino I think.
The idea I have is in the £10-15 region each, but I'd really like your opinion on this Dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 21:23:29
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Painted and based like the pic? Certainly 10 pounds is workable. Try 13?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 21:25:57
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Terrifying Doombull
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No more than 10 GBP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 21:41:44
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Roarin' Runtherd
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If they were painted and based like they are now I would pay $20-$25 US easy for them.
Great work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 21:56:41
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I would charge at least that amount, £15+
I was looking at some resin pre-painted dark age huts the other day, I would say probably of comparable size (but a lot less complex - it was essentially just a dome of thatch with some pots outside) that were selling for £40 each. Now, this was for historicals (a tournament I played at, the TO had gone and bought about a dozen of them just for that weekend's tournament...) but I still think you might find buyers willing to pay in-between those amounts.
You might find you're helped by the large number of post- apoc games that seem to have come out recently, or are about to come out.
Was tempted to say "no more than £5!!", then find out what show it is and come and buy them all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:14:24
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Fixture of Dakka
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@ Pacific
Heh, if you're willing to travel all the way to Falkirk here in Scotland then be my guest .
See now that's the thing. I see people selling terrain for extortionate amounts all the time. For instance right £15 seems a round enough number, but I remember seeing someone else here on Dakka selling similar shacks for £30 upwards each. That and your run of the mill Renedra 1/56th cheapo farmhouse costs £20 new, £10 second hand. Hmn, I suppose it'll be down to what I'm feeling like on the day then. Now £60 for four would be great, £40 even I suppose, as even at £5 each I'd be making a profit (though that's not counting for man hours). ...But I don't want to undercut myself, though I know that people definitely will try and have a go at that if I sell them at a show.
Aye I'll take along maybe a dozen and see what happens. If anything it'll give me an idea of what to be charging for these things and the general public's opinion of them. If it turns out well enough I may consider sticking up a sales thread and dealing with the postage hassle (which has been the main reason why I don't sell my stuff here in the first place).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:14:46
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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The problem is that it has very limited to no game functionality. It can function as blocking terrain for a very, very small unit, but can't be used as cover, since it can't be seen through or shot over, and has no additional game uses.
Your skill is enormous, and as a display piece it is amazing. I could easily see myself dropping 32.5+ (GBP) on work of this skill. But this piece itself is, for the purposes of game utility, the same as having a rectangular brick of foam on the table, which severely limits my desire to use it as terrain.
This piece? I would pay 6.5 GBP max. (Depending on how flush I was and how nice you were at the booth  ) With the addition of something to increase its utility (sandbags on the roof a model could get cover behind, or a rickety fence that models could shoot through) I would be inclined to spend closer to the 19.5-21.75 end of the spectrum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:29:43
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I've seen some of your stuff in your blog Wyrmalla and it's top notch, very nicely done. If you sell it too cheap, you could risk of alienating customers who might normally be willing to spend that larger amount of money on quality terrain. I might even be tempted to try for £25-30, go down to £20 if someone wants to haggle.
Jimsolo wrote:The problem is that it has very limited to no game functionality. It can function as blocking terrain for a very, very small unit, but can't be used as cover, since it can't be seen through or shot over, and has no additional game uses.
Your skill is enormous, and as a display piece it is amazing. I could easily see myself dropping 32.5+ (GBP) on work of this skill. But this piece itself is, for the purposes of game utility, the same as having a rectangular brick of foam on the table, which severely limits my desire to use it as terrain.
This piece? I would pay 6.5 GBP max. (Depending on how flush I was and how nice you were at the booth  ) With the addition of something to increase its utility (sandbags on the roof a model could get cover behind, or a rickety fence that models could shoot through) I would be inclined to spend closer to the 19.5-21.75 end of the spectrum.
That's quite a narrow perspective though Jimsolo - if you were playing a post-apocalypse Skirmish game (which most of them are, I don't know of any mass battle games) then the chances are there are probably rules for going inside and searching or hiding in there.
£6.50?!?! GTFO  Seriously, what can you get for that these days? Not even a blister pack!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:44:43
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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At the end of the day dude it has to be something your comfortable with but....
Most people who sell their handmade crafts do underprice themselves severely.
I was looking into this recently too, and a good formula I found for what you should sell an item for was;
Cost of materials + your hourly rate = your selling price.
If you use a formula like this you can be fair with your pricing.
Just remember not to undersell yourself, UK min wage is currently £6.50 per hour (£6.70 from October) what your doing is surely and the time spent doing it worth more than a that.  (I'll probably go for just shy of what I'm paid per hour in my day job to be honest  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:45:57
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hmn, well I can easily give these interiors and windows, that's just a case of not glueing down the roof and adding a lip. I could do sandbags and what not, but wouldn't players already have those as separate pieces? These are more to go along with other bits of terrain rather than being stand alone pieces. I'm putting this stuff in at a stall that already has four other guy's stuff on it, so if I had all the space to myself then I suppose I could flush the thing with all sorts, but I'm kind of stuck with what I can do.
Saying their bricks though kind of ignores that a lot of the gamers around where I am play with terrain with no interiors. I mean, and I'm biased, if I'd seen shacks two years ago when I started this whole post-apocalyptic thing for sale I'd have lept at them. From my own perspective they're a right bugger to get a hold of as nobody really makes them (at least at a decent quality, or not charging extortionate prices because of all the resin, though on that subject Ramshackle Game's ones are solid pieces), nor by and large are people willing to put the effort in to make them themselves.
Ah, but yeah, even if they only cost me like £2.50 each to make, £6.50's way lower than I'd be willing to go. Based on my own opinion and the fact that I know people pay more for this kind of stuff (be at scratch built stuff or the really crappy kits that you can buy new unpainted). I'm trying to hit a number that I can sell this stuff at and not look like a schmuck. =/
At this point then I'm thinking I make say two batches of four of this size and push for the £15 each mark. I'll see about also making some slightly large ones too, or maybe one or two with stairways going up the side and going for £20 on those. It'll really come down to how much space there is on the stall, but I have a feeling based on how much people have been at my throat to buy these things that I'll be able to off load them quick enough. Failing that I'll just take them back home and sell them to someone at my club.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 23:09:29
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I want these on my Wreck Age table right now! The shack is wonderful, and unpainted I'd happily pay between £15-50 depending on size. For painted pieces I'd pay more.
Sort your shipping out, you'd have a customer in California.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 23:21:12
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd say these are worth more than a tenner each mate - but if you price them at about that(£10) you'll probably be able to sell a bunch of them. £30 for one piece is great but £10 each for 50 is better. maybe - I'm a bit drunk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 07:52:57
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If I could buy 10 of those for £10 each right now I would put in a order :0 at 15 plus postage I would be quite happy.
Realy it depends on your own value of time, little shacks look best when you have a bunch of little shacks. So I think cheaper is best' but not allways posible for sale.
At 20 each it starts to get expencive :( but not realy unreasonable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 10:03:32
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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If like you said you can do windows/interiors then doing some in varying sizes, states of collapse etc would give you a decent range of products and profits. For that, completely sealed with no interior £10-15 seems about right, however when you start adding interiors, larger sizes, collapsed or decaying versions etc you could look a near doubling that for a larger version with an interior.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 10:06:31
Subject: Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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I would suggest that you try anything up to £20, but........
Gamers can err on the side of being cheapskates. Just look at eBay, there are often homemade pieces there that just don't sell. People get it in their head that they could make something like that and devalue it in their minds, much like the price of painted miniatures. (how hard can it be? Balsa, plasitcard, glue, paint - jobs a good 'un facepalm
Hopefully at a mature (i.e established) gaming event you should find some sensible types to meet a decent price. There's always the chance to a do a last half hour price crash/discount deal with anything that doesn't sell at your full price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 10:12:27
Subject: Re:Selling Price for these Shacks?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wouldn't go so far as £20 I think. Right, I'll punt the small ones for £15 and use that as a baseline for anything larger (I have one that's twice as big, so that'd be £25, and another that is that again, so that'd be £35). I'll stick what I come out with here later in the week maybe and see what people think. ...The problem then would be me not wanting to get rid of the bloody things and to use them myself however. :(
I may make some sets of fences as well as just as a side thing (and also because they take up less space). The going price for those was like £15 for ten as well when I last sold some. I made the stuff below over a year ago, so ah, don't take that as an indication of the quality.
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Aye well I won't be churning these things out, so if I do make more to sell online I'd either be making a few then sticking them in a sales thread with a fixed price or taking commissions. I asked the same question over on my club's Facebook group and I had much the same response. People saying they'd spend loads, others that agreed that £15 was fair and a couple that were saying they'd begrudge anything more than £5. Hopefully if I were to punt them on a site like this where people are aware of post-apocalyptic games like Wreck Age and the lack of scenery like this for them they'll be willing to pay the sort of cash I'm looking for. Heh, but yes, if people really want to make this stuff themselves then I have a tutorial sitting there, be my guest though to have the will to make enough of these for a table.
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