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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver







1. "Sorcerer" Conclave
2."Legion" Formations
3. Deathclaw Droppods
4. Anti-air unit(s)

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Giggling Nurgling




Grand Junction, CO

Drop pods would be great! I've often wished i could use them. Maybe just get a buddy who's willing to let you do so and play it how you want. As for Anti Air units the Heldrake does pretty well for me, or just take guard as allies
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




I would like to see open topped rhino options and a "build a warband" system that lets you take options that would balance out well against the space marine chapter tactics.

Have the army be allowed to take three "insert name here" options, some more expensive than others. A one dot bonus would unlock the daemon engines or the loyalist vehicle list, for example. Two dot options would allow faster unit speeds or God specific boosts to unit capabilities. Three dot options would allow things like resurecting units or tablewide game changing effects akin to the warpstorm table. If someone wanted to buy three level one bonuses, or one level three bonus their armies could have the same unit makeup but affect the game completely differently.

Just spit-balling.

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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Loyalist get the grav weaponry. I suggest Chaos marines get benefits to plasma weaponry. There already is Ectoplasma weapons. I wish there was an army wide special rule called "Plasma Blood" all models in this army get a 6++ and fnp save (models with fnp get an improvement) from any enemy plasma weapon including eldar and tau safe plasma. In addition any model firing a plasma weapon result of gets hot! is rerolled. In addition, any plasma weaponry to wound or to penetrate roll of a 6s are treated as Str 8.

Now a 15pt plasma gun/pistol is finally worthwhile.

Now I originally wanted the Rule to allow all of CSM to completely ignore gets hot! and immunity to enemy damage of plasma weaponry including tau/eldar plasma str 6 ap2 weaponry. And to allow CSM plasma weapons to wound and to penetrate roll of 6s become +1 str.


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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential





1) No forced god power. Psyker automatically knows primaris.
2) Psychic power revamp. Full 6 powers per god discipline.
3) Mark of tzeentch - cast powers on a 3+, +1 invulnerable save, +1 BS.
4) Mark of khorne - furious charge, charge 6" + d6, assault grenades, +1WS
5) Mark of slaanesh - +1 initiative, fleet, hit and run, assault grenades.
6) Mark of nurgle - +1 Toughness, shrouded, defensive grenades.
7) Open topped rhinos.
8) Daemon engines are WS4 at least, ffs.
9) Juicy warlord traits.
10) Units that could sensibly be a "daemon of" get the corresponding rules. No points increase.
11) Formations that don't suck. Fluffy for gods and some undivided.
12 ) Apostles can take steeds, bikes, and jump packs, and anything else they might want to take.
13) HQ rework, particularly Fabius bile and lucious the eternal.
14) Make chaos boons work better. Either like daemon rewards, god specific, or just individual charts you can choose to roll on like warlord traits.
15) More chaosy guns n weapons n stuff.
16) Nurgle hq's have access to rot flies as well as palanquins.
17) Daemon prince points drop. Actually, lots of points drops.
18) I don't know how to fix termies, but that.
19) No forced gun or weapon changes for oblits and mutilators. Give em EW that only works against double strength.
20) Make champion of chaos force the other player to be unable to refuse a challenge. Chaos leaders will seek the strongest of the enemy.
21) Seriously, legion tactics or formations or at least some rules acknowledgement of their existence.
22) All around better delivery options for close combat units.

Off the top of my head.

7500 pts Chaos Daemons 
   
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential





Change Black Crusade warlord trait to Preferred Enemy EVERYBODY!

It's called a thick skin. The Jersey born have it innately. 
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





let me use 3.5ed book for csm.
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 Filch wrote:
let me use 3.5ed book for csm.


hahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahah (not sarcasm)

Its amazing, but that book now would not even make a splash, almost all of the abuse you could do with it has been nerfed by ED changes, no infiltrating turn 1 assaults, cant be done, no minor psyker power abuse, they don't exist anymore etc.
you could bring it in line, add formations and bobs your uncle.
   
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Not as Good as a Minion





Austria

No need to bring it in line
2 Wound Thousand Sons and Rubic Terminator Squads are all I need to play CSM again.

Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought




Southampton, UK

AncientSkarbrand wrote:

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Off the top of my head.


Can't argue with any of that.

23) Everything in the damn book gets Hatred (Imperium).
24) Veterans Of The Long War should be pricey but it should properly reflect the fluff. It should make CSMs properly bad-ass. +1Ld does not cut it.
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

-Legion specific "chapter tactics".
-Chaos Lords give out army buffs, based on God alignment
-Defiler gets cheaper.
-Standard CSM get ATSKNF


Automatically Appended Next Post:
-No boon table

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Gargantuan Gargant






Distinguish the normal chaos marine renegades and chaos legionnaires. VoTLW should give an option of boosting the respective model of either WS or BS alongside the +1Ld and Hatred: Space Marines (which should really be Armies of the Imperium).

For the cult units the big changes that need to happen are:

Berserkers, make them 2 attacks base again and make it so chainaxes are either free or buff them up to gain either rending or +1S so they're a kind of cheap power maul. Either that or just allow them to take a variety of PW ala Vanguard Vet prices.

Thousand Sons, make it so that the aspiring sorcerer (who should really be ML2 stock) gives them relentless rather than slow and purposeful as long as he's alive in the unit. Also make it so that they either have 2 wounds each or the ability to re-roll all failed armour saves of 1. Then add actual weapons options including Heavy Bolters or Autocannons which come with inferno bolts. Make the Icon of Flame actually useful by having it make all ranged weapons in the unit ignore cover (take that scat bikes!).

Plague Marines are pretty decent for the most part. Maybe just change the Icon of Despair to give Shrouded in addition to Fear.

Noise marines are okay, just change sonic blasters back to assault 2 weapons so they gain back more mobility.

Chosen should be the most customizable of all the chaos units, make it so they're more than just an overglorified special weapons squad. Let them take one of several veteran "traits", so you can buy the whole unit infiltrate+stealth, or tank/monster hunters, or have the entire unit gain the same bonus from one roll on the chaos boon table (re-rolling spawnhood, dark apotheosis and the no reward results).
   
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe




Bodt

Daemon Princes should either be T6 or get Eternal Warrior back.

4000 pts
4700+ pts
2500 pts Hive Fleet Gungnir

St. Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go. I owe my soul to GW's store. 
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

Both would be great.
   
 
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