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Hey! all.

I've started 40k again to play friendly games with my brother and hes friend and I've been trying some stuff but it usually ends up being a pretty poor list.
I like to slap inquisition allies into my lists but it's not necessary.

We play friendly games so formations aren't allowed, which im 100% fine with and of course I also never which chapter tactics to choose,

So dakka, become my buddha and enlighten me.

Probably better off posting your normal list overe here; http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/14.page

and asking for advice.

Dark Angels are a very shooty marine army.

Imperial Fists are the dakka chapter, Dark Angels coming in second for their increased overwatch skill. Either way you'll want to be using something like plasma guns and plasma cannons for infantry.

Would argue that Ultramarines are the shootiest chapter with Doctrines.

Imperial Fists, Dark Angels do Dakka well too. The former two due to shooting bonuses, the latter for not being able to be tied up in combat.

Command Squad with 4 meltaguns in a drop pod. Great way to blow something up on turn 1.

Thunderfire cannons are also good at being shooting, as are vindicators, although their range isnt very long. I am also a big fan of Devastator Squads with missile launchers or lascannons.

Devastator Centurions are also great units, I dont have any but I have seen them work pretty well.

I have two stormtalons that provide a lot of great shooting. I gvie them the tyhphoon missiles. A cheaper platofrm for typhoon missile launchers may be landspeeders, but they are also more fragile.

What kinds of armies are you playing against and what kinds of models do you have?

 Icculus wrote:
Command Squad with 4 meltaguns in a drop pod. Great way to blow something up on turn 1.

Thunderfire cannons are also good at being shooting, as are vindicators, although their range isnt very long. I am also a big fan of Devastator Squads with missile launchers or lascannons.

Devastator Centurions are also great units, I dont have any but I have seen them work pretty well.

I have two stormtalons that provide a lot of great shooting. I gvie them the tyhphoon missiles. A cheaper platofrm for typhoon missile launchers may be landspeeders, but they are also more fragile.

What kinds of armies are you playing against and what kinds of models do you have?

i can possibly play vs ig,deamons, csm, eldar, dark eldar, orks and space marines (my bro has eldar n space marine and his friend has all the armies except like 3 with enough figs to make a dif list everytime)

i have
techmarine + servitors (never used him)
25 tact marines
1dreadnought
2bikes + 1attack bike (i never used them yet)
5 assault marines (i dont like them nor do i have enough)
1 full lascannon predator
6 terminators (i dont use them)
6 scout snipers
1 rhino

all old stuff and i dont use half of it because it doesnt suit my playstyle. left over points i fill with inquisition because they sexy

I think you are supposed to be on the "Army List" subforum.

But anyway, what you should be looking into is the following:

To kill armoured foes: centurions, bike squads

To kill hoard foes: thunderfire cannon, whirlwind, lots of bolters.

Unfortunately if you have old models, you have weak models. Every eddition GW makes a new unit, and nerfs the older models to boost the new models. It is what keeps people buying stuff.

If I was you, run the tactical squads with plasmagun, combi-plasma on the sargent. Take your terminators and get a libby (or convert a model to one, should be fairly easy), run at things. Buy a box of Cents, equip grav, and kill stuff. Equip bikes with grav guns, kill other stuff.

Have fun

Fisheyes wrote:
I think you are supposed to be on the "Army List" subforum.

But anyway, what you should be looking into is the following:

To kill armoured foes: centurions, bike squads

To kill hoard foes: thunderfire cannon, whirlwind, lots of bolters.

Unfortunately if you have old models, you have weak models. Every eddition GW makes a new unit, and nerfs the older models to boost the new models. It is what keeps people buying stuff.

If I was you, run the tactical squads with plasmagun, combi-plasma on the sargent. Take your terminators and get a libby (or convert a model to one, should be fairly easy), run at things. Buy a box of Cents, equip grav, and kill stuff. Equip bikes with grav guns, kill other stuff.

Have fun

alright cool for the info. plasma n gravs really seems like the way to go. and of course, cents.