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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 01:51:58
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Hi people. I just wanted to know which one of the Soul Grinder, the Maulerfiend or the Helbrute was the best for Anti-Tank when playing KDK. Many people select the Soul Grinder because he's anti-flyer, but not many people are playing flyers at my gaming club. So which one should I take ?
Thx for the answers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 02:13:23
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Soul Grinder is still the best of the three, but also the most expensive, especially with Phlegm (the best upgrade IMO). Phlegm Bombardment is an Ordnance weapon and a large blast, so it can do good against a blob of MEQ or less or a vehicle. I don't take a Soul Grinder for its AA capability, as said capability is weak at best. The Maulerfiend is decent, but IMO you should take at least 2 for threat saturation. Not sure what the best loadout is for one (magma cutter vs. lashers) since I don't currently own one. The Helbrute is garbage, although perhaps not completely since it comes with a multimelta as standard. They suffer from the problems of being a walker without a save. I've had mine Immobilized in my own backfield too many times, and other times it has just gotten blown up. It's too bad, as the Helbrute is one of my favorite Chaos models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 05:30:14
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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The Soul Grinder is the best choice of the 3... It's anti air is weak and not the reason to take it... That being said- for strictly anti-tank, the Maulerfiend is the best. It chews up tanks and spits them out!!! Problem is- Maulerfiend is not as durable as the soul grinder .. 2 maulerfiends is the best way to run them. Soul grinder is a better all around choice, if you are in a tank-heavy meta.... Run a few Maulerfiends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 12:11:30
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Personally I prefer the maulerfiend, but only if you run a few of them. It's a unit where you have to run a few to really get some success out of them. Their speed is what I like the most and it combos well with a lot of other units I enjoy fielding like bikes and flesh hounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 14:38:40
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Maulerfiend doesn't need much investment and is quick, and the Soul Grinder is pretty durable while being an all-rounder.
The Helbrute is pure garbage though.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 23:17:40
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Missionary On A Mission
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For anti-tank work I'd say none of them. Use Bikes (or Raptors I guess) with Melta Guns - T5, 12" movement and you can charge in to finish it off with krak grenades and a melta-bomb.
The Soul Grinder is pretty average at anti-tank. Phlegm is just a short range Battlecannon, and Battlecannons are not good at anti-tank. Great at clearing MEQ though. I actually prefer to use the Torrent Flamer (S6 AP4), to wipe out 4+ troops (Firewarriors, Pathfinders, Scouts, Guard etc). Moving only 6" a turn means it takes a long while to reach something hiding in their backline - Slaanesh Grinders for Chaos Demons help there with the extra run distance but obviously thats not an option for Khorne Demonkin.
Maulerfiends are solid, almost purely because they can move 12". You definitely need to saturate AV to use them though, since a single AV12 vehicle is not hard to destroy even if it has a 5++. Running at least 2, with other Rhinos and Soul Grinders, to make the enemy have to decide which vehicle to pop.
Helbrutes are crappy Dreadnaughts, and Dreadnaughts are not good to start with. Really cool models though - if you do want to use them, the Mayhem Pack formation is probably the only viable way (3 Helbrutes that arrive together from Deep Strike, get IWND, but have to roll on the Crazed table every turn even if they didn't take damage). Deep-Striking Multi-meltas are reasonably decent. Edit: though I'm not sure if KDK can take the Mayhem pack? Might be a CSM only thing.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/05/01 23:18:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/02 02:01:18
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Mayhem Pack is CSM faction only, but you can ally them in easily enough. You just don't get BftBG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/02 17:27:10
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin : Soul Grinder vs Maulerfiend vs Helbrute.
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Soul Grinders are slower, but more durable with better armour and more hull points. Also more attacks.
For dedicated anti-tank your best shot is, imo, allying in a Renegade CAD with 3x3 Laser Destroyers
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