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Recently a lot of players at my local game store have talked about going back to 4th or 5th ed, being sick of seventh. Everyone is excited including me. The only problem is.... That admech did not exist back then, and they are far too different from guard to use as them (and I'm not a fan of guard anyway ). How can I tone them down for previous editions?

Just take them out of formations, and don't use grav. Haywire in 5th just stank. If you find yourself being super OP (which I doubt if you're playing 5th aka Transport Boogaloo) then add in sicarians, electropriests etc.