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There's an upcoming tournament that doesn't allow allies of any kind and limits players to 3 detachments but has no other restrictions. I'm expecting to see quite a few super heavies, so I brought plenty of deep striking melta! And now that Helbrutes have 4 attacks I couldn't resist taking a few.


Chaos Space Marines - Crimson Slaughter - Combined Arms Detachment

HQ
Chaos Sorcerer 135
-Mastery Level 2, Balestar of Mannon, Terminator Armor, Force Axe

Troops
10 Chaos Cultists 50
10 Chaos Cultists 50

Elites
3 Chaos Terminators 117
-3 Combi-Meltas, 1 Power Axe, 1 Power Maul, 1 Power Fist
3 Chaos Terminators 117
-3 Combi-Meltas, 1 Power Axe, 1 Power Maul, 1 Power Fist
3 Chaos Terminators 122
-3 Combi-Plasmas, 1 Power Axe, 1 Power Maul, 1 Chainfist

Fast Attack
5 Raptors 115
-2 Meltaguns

Heavy Support
Forgefiend 175
-2 Hades Autocannons
Forgefiend 175
-2 Hades Autocannons
8 Havoks 194
-4 Lascannons

Fortification
Aegis Defense Line 70
-Comms Relay

Mayhem Pack
It Will Not Die, Mayhem from the Maelstrom: All of the units in this Formation must begin the game in Reserve. When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation. On a successful Reserves Roll, the all of the units in this Formation arrives from Reserve by Deep Strike. Tormented Terrors: At the start of each of your Movement phases, make a single roll on the Crazed Table. All of the Helbrutes in this Formation are affected by the result, even if they have not suffered glancing or penetrating hit.

Helbrute 115
-Multi-Melta, Power Scourge
Helbrute 115
-Multi-Melta, Power Fist with Heavy Flamer
Helbrute 110
-Plasma Cannon, Power Fist


Mayhem Pack
Helbrute 115
-Multi-Melta, Power Scourge
Helbrute 115
-Multi-Melta, Power Fist with Heavy Flamer
Helbrute 110
-Plasma Cannon, Power Fist


2,000


The general idea is to have the Sorcerer, Havoks, Forgefiends, and possibly the Cultists deploy behind the ADL. 3 units of Terminators, 1 unit of Raptors, and 6 Helbrutes will deepstrike, re-rolling reserve rolls. The Sorcerer will roll on Divination to get Prescience, giving me some form of anti-air when paired with the Havoks or the Forgefiends.

Any suggestions?

Just the usual of taking a heldrake and replacing havoks with oblits.

I'd probably ditch the plasma cannons on the helbrutes. Not too sure about the scourges either to be honest, I think I'd rather have fist/heavy flamer instead for the same points.

Switch the chainfist to one of the melta squads since they're the ones likely to land near something that needs a chainfist to deal with.

I think you're going to find that you're disapointed with the forgefiends, though they can be streaky and if your dice are hot, they can be amazing.

If the sorceror is going with the havoks, he probably doesn't need terminator armour, unless your plan is to stick him out front and tank non-AP2 with precog if you roll it?

At the end of the day, you're taking CSM to a tournament, with all that implies, so set expectations low and be pleasantly surprised if you exceed them.

I like my Helbrutes bare bones. the melta and PF are exelent tools. Maybe give them flamer, since it is cheap. but they get taken down fast, so cheap is the best option. I realy like the forgefiend, with 2 on the board, you are looking at 8 str8 hits, whereever you want them. if you feel you need plasma, retool a forgefind to fill this role, since they can actualy hit something, with 3 plasma cannons.