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Adolescent Youth with Potential





Hello guys I am a pretty new DA player and this is my first post.So ı started with dark vengeace box.
I plan to expand my army to 1850pts but I have a limited buged so I plan to get a ballanced army.

+++ Lions hand (1850pts) +++

+ Core (920pts) +
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Battle Demi Company (920pts)

····(85pts)Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine (56pts), Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Packs (15pts)]
········Assault Space Marine Sergeant (14pts) [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]

····(115pts)Company Master [Iron Halo]
········Power Armour (25pts) [Combi-Plasma (10pts), Frag and Krak Grenades, Infantry, Power Sword (15pts)]

····(165pts)Devastator Squad [2x Lascannon (40pts), 2x Multi-Melta (20pts), 4x Space Marine (56pts)]
········Rhino (35pts) [Smoke Launchers and Searchlight, Storm Bolter]
········Sergeant (14pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword, Signum]

····(185pts)Tactical Squad [Plasma Cannon (15pts), Plasmagun (15pts), 9x Tactical Marine (126pts)]
········Sergeant (29pts) [Chainsword, Plasma Pistol (15pts)]

····(200pts)Tactical Squad [Meltagun (10pts),9x Tactical Marine (126pts)]
········Drop Pod (35pts)
········Sergeant (29pts) [Chainsword, Plasma Pistol (15pts)]

····(170pts)Tactical Squad [ Plasma Cannon (15pts), Plasmagun (15pts), 9x Tactical Marine (126pts)]
········Sergeant (14pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword]
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+ Auxillary (930pts) +
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Deathwing Redemption Force (535pts)

····(225pts)Deathwing Terminator Squad [Assault Cannon (20pts), Chainfists (5pts), 4x Deathwing Terminators (160pts), Terminator Armour]
········Deathwing Sergeant (40pts) [Storm Bolter and Power Sword]

····(200pts)Deathwing Terminator Squad [4x Deathwing Terminators (160pts), Terminator Armour]
········Deathwing Sergeant (40pts) [Storm Bolter and Power Sword]

····(110pts)Interrogator-Chaplain [Rosarius]
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Ravenwing Attack Squadron (125pts)

····(75pts)Ravenwing Bike Squad [Bolt pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, 2x Ravenwing Biker (50pts), Teleport Homer, Twin-linked Boltgun]
········Ravenwing Sergeant(25pts) [Chainsword]

····(50pts)Ravenwing Land Speeder [Heavy Bolter]
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Ravenwing Support Squadron (270pts)

····(120pts)Ravenwing Land Speeder Vengance [Heavy Bolter, Plasma Storm Battery]
····(150pts)Ravenwing Land Speeders
········Ravenwing Land Speeder (50pts) [Heavy Bolter]
········Ravenwing Land Speeder (50pts) [Heavy Bolter]
········Ravenwing Land Speeder (50pts) [Heavy Bolter]
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So what you think about it?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/08/23 18:22:41


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Tactical Squads require transports to achieve their potential. This is the most important feedback; everything else is fine.

Probably second most important: Plasma pistols are garbage.

Ravenwing Support Squad is awesome in an entirely Ravenwing army, but a lot of points otherwise. Also they're best with Typhoon Missile Launchers to stand off.

Grav guns are great on bikers.

Drop the multi meltas from devastator squad and let them shoot two lascannons or better yet grav cannons out the Rhino.

You probably already know that Ravenwing is the best part of this codex and Deathwing the worst.

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Firstly, welcome to Dakka and to DA!

Crikey, there's alot to cover, so don't pay too much attention to the order, these are coming out of my brain in no particular order:

Please have a read of this sticky thread about army list format and why we don't want the individual points costs listed (protects against litigation, and makes list easier to read).

With the RW Support squadron, you've got only a single heavy bolter on each 'speeder. Considering the points difference between a speeder with one, and a speeder with two heavy bolters, there's almost no justifyable reason not to add the second weapon (as a fast vehicle, it can still fire two weapons whilst moving at cruising speeds).
With the LS Vengeance, many people will suggest using a Darkshroud instead (gives the whole squadron a 4+ save, or a 2+ re-rollable when you Jink, increases survivability of the unit immensely), but I suggest you give the Vengeance a go for a few games (but when assembling, make sure not to glue in the pieces that you'd need to change to use it as a Darkshroud).

With the RW attack squadron, again your speeder only has a single weapon, and you're lacking any specials on the bike squad itself - the increase in BS from the formation bonus is a bit wasted on the bike's bolters (as they're already twin-linked). Options here are either Grav guns (which work well on a Relentless model like a bike) or melta (in which case you might be better off with an attack bike squadron). Other than that, you might just be keeping them cheap for teleport homers (and having less guns makes them less of a target).

One of the restrictions on the Deathwing Redemption force is that Independent Characters need to purchase Terminator Armour - this allows them to deep strike with the rest of the formation, so your chaplain needs to add that. Try to find the points to add a heavy weapon to the second terminator squad.

The drop pod tacticals I suggest swapping the plasma pistol for a combi-melta - this gives you an extra melta shot on the turn you arrive, which makes it more likely to kill the target.
I'm not keen on the Devastators in their current configuration - you've got a mix of weapons (which is a personal bug-bear), and you've also given them a Rhino when the other tactical squads would really benefit from it instead. Either drop the lascannons (leaving the 2 meltas in the rhino - you can drive up first turn and then shoot out of the top hatch in the second turn) or drop the meltas and give the rhino to a tactical squad.

Hope this is helpful!
   
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Oh I didn't see the plasma land speeder yeah that's total garbage

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Made in tr
Adolescent Youth with Potential





 axisofentropy wrote:


You probably already know that Ravenwing is the best part of this codex and Deathwing the worst.


I heard about it but ı never realy knew what is good and why it is good since as I said ı don't have a lot of money.SOOO I only bought dark vengeance box and couldn't read the codex.Thus I don't know a thing about current meta. I added DW redemption force because terrminators from the box realy did a good job in my first mach (w/ my friend who played chaos).




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Sad feel when DW is the worst part ;_; wish termies got some love

To many unpainted models to count. 
   
 
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