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So I'm building a Destruction list, slowly and painfully (second game, and first game I had to build my own list!)

I think I get this point thing, even though the names in the General's Handbook don't match the names in the Orc and Goblin warscroll. I also see that the points don't seem to vary much, so I'm not too worried about min maxing - it looks like far too much work than I'm able to commit to now!

But I'm having a heck of a time finding any point values for trolls and giants.

Am I blind? Where are those guys? Any help would be appreciated!

Giants are now called Aleguzzler Gargants, top of page 137

Trolls are now called Troggoths, bottom of page 139

You might want to consider picking up the Grand Alliance: Destruction book. It's only 16.50 USD and has all of the Warscrolls for the "newer versions" of the models. You can just page through and find the pictures of the models you have.

That's what I did for Order.

 pancakeonions wrote:
But I'm having a heck of a time finding any point values for trolls and giants.

Also: http://scrollbuilder.com/ (Trolls and Giants are under the Grots drop down in the Destro tab )

- Salvage

Thanks for the advice, all!

I finally notice the "keywords" under each orc unit/figure on the warscrolls. There's where the new names are!

Sloooooowly getting my "warhammer legs"

Should be fun!