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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/04 08:04:49
Subject: [1850] - Iron Hands - Fist of Medusa, mid-tier competitive, top-tier FUN
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ever since I saw the Armored Task Force formation and the Fist of Medusa detachment I fell in love with the Iron Hands, so I decided to build a list that makes use of all the benefits of the Iron Hands detachment. I expect the list to be competitive at the mid to high tier since it does contain smashf*cker, albeit an unoptimized one, but most importantly I want to try out all the flexibility and durability that this list can provide.
Fist of Medusa Strike Force
+ Core (1748pts) +
+ Armoured Task Force +
Predator (95pts) - Heavy bolter sponsons
Techmarine (140pts) - The Ironstone, Servo-Harness, Bike
Thunderfire Cannons (100pts)
Vindicators (120pts)
Vindicators (120pts)
+ Stormlance Battle Demi-Company +
Bike Squad (98pts) - 2*Grav-gun, Melta-bomb
Captain (205pts) - Artificer Armour, The Gorgon's Chain, Thunder Hammer, Bike
Command Squad (180pts) - Bikes
- Apothecary (33pts)
- Veteran (43pts) - Lightning Claw, Storm Shield
- Veteran (43pts) - Lightning Claw, Chainsword, Storm Shield (10pts)
- Veteran (28pts) - Storm Shield (10pts)
- Veteran (28pts) - Storm Shield (10pts)
Devestator Squad (175pts) - Rhino, 2*Grav-Cannon
Tactical Squad (160pts) - Melta gun, Melta Bomb
- Razorback - Twin-Linked Assault Cannon
Tactical Squad (160pts) - Melta gun, Melta Bomb
- Razorback - Twin-Linked Assault Cannon
Tactical Squad (165pts) - Grav-gun, Melta Bomb
- Razorback - Twin-Linked Assault Cannon
+ Auxiliary +
Honoured Ancients
Dreadnought (100pts)
Total: 1848
I don't even think my command bike squad is all that optimized, wouldn't be surprised if they get tied up by a single ironclad for 4 turns. But what I look forward to is stacking all the crazy vehicle bonuses on my tanks, in a perfect world my razorbacks and vindicators will be ignoring shaken/stunned, regaining hull points on 4+(repairing weapons on 6+), getting a 3+ cover by hiding behind my boltered ruins and the techmarine is repairing on a 2+ for the vindicators. The one thing that I really want to try is the thunderfire cannon, so that's never going away.
C&C welcome, this is my first time making a codex marine list so I might have missed some stuff. What are some potential bad matchups I may have barring scatbikes and psychic deathstars?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/04 13:19:57
Subject: [1850] - Iron Hands - Fist of Medusa, mid-tier competitive, top-tier FUN
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Looks reasonably fun and balanced. Defiantly fluffy, nice mech list theme.
I would try to get the LC sponsons on the pred. TLLC up top as well, points allowing. If you just want to blow up light troops, a whirlwind might serve you better. And your list could probably use a little more AV firepower.
Bike squad could use a c-grave more then a melta bomb.
If you are going for a CC command squad, take the champion. For the cost of the power weapon you get a 6++ and a point of WS. Not everyone needs to have a SS. Unless you are getting hammered with a lot of AP3 ignores cover, you can always jink anyway. Not quite as good as the storm shields, but free with the bikes.
Single melta guns are unreliable. Get the sarge a combi to match, or switch to something that works with the squad’s bolters.
The naked dread feels like a pure tax. If you want a MM dread, he could use a pod. Or if on foot, a better gun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/04 17:30:48
Subject: [1850] - Iron Hands - Fist of Medusa, mid-tier competitive, top-tier FUN
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nevelon wrote:Looks reasonably fun and balanced. Defiantly fluffy, nice mech list theme.
I would try to get the LC sponsons on the pred. TLLC up top as well, points allowing. If you just want to blow up light troops, a whirlwind might serve you better. And your list could probably use a little more AV firepower.
Bike squad could use a c-grave more then a melta bomb.
If you are going for a CC command squad, take the champion. For the cost of the power weapon you get a 6++ and a point of WS. Not everyone needs to have a SS. Unless you are getting hammered with a lot of AP3 ignores cover, you can always jink anyway. Not quite as good as the storm shields, but free with the bikes.
Single melta guns are unreliable. Get the sarge a combi to match, or switch to something that works with the squad’s bolters.
The naked dread feels like a pure tax. If you want a MM dread, he could use a pod. Or if on foot, a better gun.
These are good advice and ways to further strengthen the individual units, but the difficulty comes from where I can shave off the points? I can see dropping some storm shields and downgrading the bike squad to an attack bike, but would the trade off for a better dread and combi weapons in the tactical squads be worth it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/04 17:39:55
Subject: Re:[1850] - Iron Hands - Fist of Medusa, mid-tier competitive, top-tier FUN
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Been Around the Block
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im actually gonna play my first tourny the 20th and this is veeeeery close to my list^^
Fist of medusa strike force detatchment.
Formation: Stormlance battlecompany :
Chapter master, Gorgons chain, Bike, Art--armour, thunderhammer 245pts
Command squad, Bikes, x3 stormshields,apothecary,PF,x2LC 225pts
Tactical squad x9 MG GravC, Sgt Combi melta. rhino 230pts
Tactical squad x9 MG GravC, Sgt Combi melta. rhino 230pts
Tactical squad x4 MG SGT, Combi melta, Razorback, LC TL Plas 165pts
Devastator squad x4 x4ml Sgt Razorback , TL LC 205pts ( bit of a setback as the devs will have to start the game in the razor, so might change some things up)
Attack bike squad 1 MM 50pts
Formation: Armourd task force
Techmarine 65pts
Predator 75pts
Vindicator 120pts
Vindicator 120pts
Formation: Honoured Ancients
Dreadnought TL LC 115pts
1845 total.
i like your idea with the Devs packing Grav cannons in a rhino as a mobile fireing base.
was going to have my command sq in a las plas razor,but bikes just made more sanse, so two late nights of converting the dark vengeance bikers i have them ready to be painted^^
Wish i hade another bike model, so i could throw my Techmarine on one : /
Had some good battels with a variant of this list, and this sunday i get to fieldtest the list before the turny
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