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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 02:32:43
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Hey mates, pretty simple question for you guys. Planning on fielding the Emperors Talon Recon Company as an Allied formation and plan to field all 4x Squads with 3x Armored Sentinels per squad for a total of 12x Sentinels. With that being said, currently debating on which weapons to field them with so feel free to share your opinion and we can go from there. Currently leaning towards Autocannons or Multi-Lasers atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/20 23:54:44
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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My vote would be for Autocannons. S7 is great against everything and this way it also keeps your Sentinels cheap. Can't go wrong with Multi-Lasers, but I would suggest possibly upgrading one of the units with Plasma Cannons as AP2 is always nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 00:02:04
Subject: Re:Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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100% Autocannons for the outflanking Sentinels. Can hit side or back armor on most vehicles when a squad of 3 fire they get 6 S7 shots which can also help againsts hordes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 00:04:00
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Pcannon, multilaser a close second
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 00:04:53
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Is it possible to magnrtize or pin the guns?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 00:57:28
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Thats the game plan going forward. Main idea of this poll is to just gauge people and see what is effective currently at this time. Always have loved the fluff and the look of the Sentinels, and from what I have heard this formation is pretty good depending on the loadout. As it stands, game plan first is to field: 12x Armored Sentinels, 9x w/Autocannons, 3x wit Plasman Cannons. Thoughts on this? Or would I be better off overall just fielding all of them with Autocannons, as Sentinels only come with 2HP and there is a risk of them losing HP due to "Gets Hot" special rule. Or is it worth the risk?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 13:30:58
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Multilasers or heavy flamers. Their main role is to tarpit - not shoot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 13:56:37
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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regarding magnetising, my own sents do quite well with a 2x1 mm magnet in the gun/ammo pack, and 2 of them in the sentinel itself in the recesses intended for the mountings.
The pcanon in particular is very easy to magnetise as it's one piece with two mount points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 14:41:40
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Pcannon is not amazing and it can kill you to boot and sentinels only have 2hp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 14:46:01
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Autocannon. With the 'gets hot' rule now applying to vehicles, Plasma Cannons are a no-go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 14:48:45
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Missionary On A Mission
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For me it's a tossup between multilasers and autocannons. Multilasers are probably better for taking rear-armor shots on vehicles: more shots, and most vehicles are AV10-11 rear (and the most common that isn't is AV14, so even autocannons won't help). Autocannons are better when you have to take front or side shots, are slightly better against T5/6 guys and have better range.They can also hurt T10, for what that's worth, on the rare occasions it ever comes up. But if you actually expect that, take lascannons.
Lascannons would be my third option, since enough of them can kill anything. Plasma cannons are OK, but between Gets Hot and the usual issues with blasts, they don't impress me a lot. Heavy flamers are worthless if you get shaken/stunned. Missiles are just lackluster, being worse than plasma cannons against groups and worse than lascannons against single targets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 14:49:00
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Lady of the Lake
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Plasma looks cooler, but autocannons are more useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 15:07:52
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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Las cannons or heavy flamers. Las Cannons would be standard I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 15:25:31
Subject: Re:Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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For me, it's Plasma Cannons. I can get the other weapons pretty much anywhere else, but Plasma Cannon platforms are in short supply.
From there, Lascannons, because mobile long-range Tank/Monster Hunting is also in relatively short supply.
AC are good, but I put one in nearly every infantry unit.
I like Multi-Lasers, but I take them on Chimera, so lots already.
Heavy Flamers are better on Scout Sentinels, but even then, usually a waste.
Missile Launchers are crappy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 15:52:59
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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For me personally, I go with the Lascannon.
Theyre not a great Lascannon platform so much (neither are thry great platforms for most anything), but it makes them a threat that an opponent has to take more seriously than an autocannon or heavy flamer, too annoying to devote real resources to killing but not totally ignorable either. The Autocannon and Multilaser options have appeal, but lacks the range of versatility of threat potential of the lascannon, which is really more what Sentinels offer than anything else.
The PC is just too dangerous to me on a 2HP vehicle, and the ML just not functional enough, while the lack of an outflank option kills the Heavy Flamer utility for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 16:36:18
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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I'm also voting for auto-cannons. The extra shots make up for the lower strength when compared to lascannons, IMO. But multi-lasers are too weak to target vehicles effectively. Auto-cannons provide the right balance between getting enough hits and doing enough damage. Plus they're cheap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 18:15:08
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Autocannons are the best overall with the multilaser being a close second. But the heavy flamer can be a hilarious way to tie up a hoard of units in close combat. It's hard to get through the front armour of 12 and the single ws3 attack doesn't do much either.
The look on your opponents face when he realizes his tar pit squad has been tar pitted by a single unit is priceless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 18:43:53
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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See below image for a quick table with points per wound (or HP) for each of the armoured Sentinal weapons. I've assumed that each infantry sized model unit takes 4 hits per flamer, dropping down to 1 per for MC's and the plasma cannon was assumed to hit 2 non MC's models per blast that fired and hit vehicles on directs and anything less than a 7" scatter. Explodes! results were counted as 3 HP, so the number will be slightly higher than in game.
Edit: Also, just because the field is green, doesn't mean it's a good option, just the best out of the ones available.
Some quick notes, the multilaser is better against AV10 and 11, the lascannon is better against AV12, 13 and 14. Against MC's The lascannon is still best with the heavy flamer ciming up tumps against anything smaller (assuming you can get there), with the plasma cannon being a decent all rounder (though cover is not accounted for). The multilaser is better than the autocannon against everything except anything 4+ or worse outside of cover. Basically take lascannons if you want to pop tanks at range, take multilasers or heavy flamers if you want to do anything else, though surprisingly, plasma cannons do OK, but then cover isn't accounted for, so yeah, multilasers or heavy flamers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/22 06:34:43
Subject: Best Weapon for Armored Sentinels?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Seems my gut feeling was right. ml and hf are also the cheapest.
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