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first question answered. Updated this post with my list and some questions.

I need some help with the list below. particularly the support systems on some of the units. And are missile or shield drones with some of the retaliation cadre units a good choice? I plan to start the game with the stealth cadre and drone net on the table and DS the cadre. Are EWOs a waste on units deep striking?

+++Retaliation Cadre+++

Commander 166 - XV86 - Dual Fusion

Riptide 225 - Ion Accelerator - plasma rifle - stim injector - EWO ( or velocity tracker )

2 XV8 Crisis Team 84 - dual fusion

2 XV8 Crisis Team 84 - dual plasma

2 XV8 Crisis Team 84 - dual plasma

Broadside 65 - HYMP

+++Stealth Cadre+++

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit 130 - Ion Raker

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit 130 - Ion Raker

3 Stealth Battlesuits 120
Shas’vre - fusion blaster - homing beacon - Markerlight & target lock

3 Stealth Battlesuits 120
Shas’vre - fusion blaster - homing beacon - Markerlight & target lock

+++Drone Net+++
4x Marker Drone 56
4x Marker Drone 56
4x Marker Drone 56
4x Marker Drone 56

Total: 1207 - 643 points left

When you refer to Aux you are referring to the hunter cadre or dawn blade. That is not required to run all 3 formations. Technically you can run as many formations as you want. The ITC and most tournament formats limit you to 3 though.

Trueknight803 wrote:
When you refer to Aux you are referring to the hunter cadre or dawn blade. That is not required to run all 3 formations. Technically you can run as many formations as you want. The ITC and most tournament formats limit you to 3 though.

thanks! updated my post with a list and some questions!

I would recommend Velocity Trackers on the Ghostkeels if you want AA in the list. 6 (or 12) S7 shots hitting rear armor will ruin most flyers' day.

Weapons with 18" range do not make good AA, unless your opponent is hilariously awful at manuevering flyers. It's an excellent deterrant, but hardly effective. I'll post more critique in an hour or so, I have a Planetary Annihilation game.

EDIT:
Let's check out the list, shall we?
• Why does your commander have guns? You have a drone net. Plop a drone controller on him, ditch the blasters, stick him in a squad of marker drones. Use the points you saved to buy more marker drones.
I see why now. I recommend taking a buffmander inside of a gunmander. Give him CNCNode, MSSS, PENchip, and stick him in one of the Fusion squads.

• Plasma Rifle is situational at best on the Riptide. I recommend SMS, due to sheer shot volume. You have plenty of AP2, what you lack is shot output.

• Switch one of the Plasma Suit squads to Fusion Suits. Again, you have plenty of AP2, you need anti-vehicle.

• Drop the Markerlights on your Stealth Suits. You have plenty of them in the Drone Net.

I recommend taking a Sky Ray for AA. Anything after that is up to you, really.

thanks for the help! what do you think about the EWO becoming a VT on the riptide and if the big crisis team should have target locks as well? And should the buffmander have some kind of weapon? I have 310 points left and want to keep an all suit theme. Suggestions?

Updated list

+++Retaliation Cadre+++

Commander 135 - Command Node - Multi Spectrum - Nuro Chip

Riptide 225 - Ion Accelerator - plasma rifle - stim injector - EWO ( or velocity tracker? )

1 XV8 Crisis Team 44 - dual fusion

1 XV8 Crisis Team 44 - dual plasma

4 XV8 Crisis Team 168 - dual plasma

Broadside 65 - HYMP - SMS ( add velocity tracker or EWO? )

+++Stealth Cadre+++

3 XV95 Ghostkeel Battle suits 445
3 Ion Raker - 3 burst cannon - 2 target lock - 3 EWO

3 Stealth Battle suits 95 - fusion blaster

3 Stealth Battle suits 95 - fusion blaster


+++Drone Net+++

4x Marker Drone 56

4x Marker Drone 56

4x Marker Drone 56

4x Marker Drone 56

questions: shield drones on DS units?

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 Verviedi wrote:
Weapons with 18" range do not make good AA, unless your opponent is hilariously awful at manuevering flyers. It's an excellent deterrant, but hardly effective. I'll post more critique in an hour or so, I have a Planetary Annihilation game.

EDIT:
Let's check out the list, shall we?
• Why does your commander have guns? You have a drone net. Plop a drone controller on him, ditch the blasters, stick him in a squad of marker drones. Use the points you saved to buy more marker drones.
I see why now. I recommend taking a buffmander inside of a gunmander. Give him CNCNode, MSSS, PENchip, and stick him in one of the Fusion squads.

• Plasma Rifle is situational at best on the Riptide. I recommend SMS, due to sheer shot volume. You have plenty of AP2, what you lack is shot output.

• Switch one of the Plasma Suit squads to Fusion Suits. Again, you have plenty of AP2, you need anti-vehicle.

• Drop the Markerlights on your Stealth Suits. You have plenty of them in the Drone Net.

I recommend taking a Sky Ray for AA. Anything after that is up to you, really.

Well the Zion Raker has a 24" range and a unit of two or three GKs parked in the middle of the board will cover the majority of it, but fair enough point on the Skyray and the rest is good advice, too.

Huh. So it does. I've been playing it as if it had 18" range since the Codex was released.
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Goddammit, Verviedi.