Blueguy203 wrote:
Hello All

I read that there was an update on GW AOS app that now included Army builder, so excited to be able to do everything under one app, i did the download and was disappointed. First this update may cause the app to run slower than normal, 2nd you may have to refresh certain information to display because everything starts off locked but refreshing it will unlock it if it was purchased prior to the update. 3rd the army builder is a paid monthly service!?!?!? That does not make any sense, do they not know that there are free services that can accommodate our needs to build a list (Warscroll builder for example). Just seems like GW is out to pull pennies from our pockets. Has anyone updated the app and came out with the same conclusion??

New AOS "Azyr" App questions / concerns:
Questions and concerns:

1) How do I remove a unit or Warscroll Battalion from the army list? Once I add them they seem stuck.

2) If you change your allegiance from one to another it does not invalidate the battle line units (such as if you start stormcast you can select judicators as battle line, and then change to order they are still a valid battle line to the app even though this is not right)

3) All points are locked in the "my battle" view even if you own the books.

4) No way to see the warscroll itself from the "Azyr" part of the app so when I am building the army I am constantly switching back and forth between warscrolls (having to re-find the units as it keeps resetting my view) and the new 'Azyr" view. Please make a link to the warscroll view from within Azyr itself.

5) No method for making non standard point lists such as 1500 points etc.

6) Azyr does not check to make sure that your Army is actually valid: Example: I made an army with 2 units of liberators, 1 unit of Judicators, a Lord Celestant and a Tempest Lords Harbinger Battalion and it said it was valid. This is clearly not valid as the Battalion does not have any of its requirements met. Also as you can not see the requirements for the stallion without going back to the warscroll view it makes the experience very clunky and non user friendly.

7) Does not filter allegiance for open play, such as savage orks are listed as an order unit if you make an open play army list.

8) No way to make non-full sized units (such as there is no way to make a unit of 6 liberators, even in open and narrative play where it can happen, you must choose ONLY 5/10/15/etc.).

9) Forces Matched Play unit minimum count restrictions on all units for open and narrative play as opposed to the "unit" minimum restrictions listed on the warscroll.

10) No way to mark what units are in what battalion.

11) No easy way to get from "My Battle" to "Azyr" - there should be a button to go back and forth if you are making people use the My Battle part of the app to use their Azyr army lists. Example: View a liberator unit in Azyr and try and check the Liberator warscroll, you press 2 back buttons then press the warscroll button on the bottom then type "liberators" at the top of the screen or scroll around to find it and then click on the warscroll itself to open it. This should be a 1 click link from the Azyr listing.

12) Only way to get to many buttons is by "hidden" scrolling, such as the use picture for a unit button is hidden until you scroll down just enough to hide the units picture

13) No way to 'undo' using custom images. Once you select to use a custom image, you are stuck with it forever.

14) Does not verify weapon load outs, such as my 1 unit 5 liberators can apparently carry (at the same time) 5 Grand Hammers AND 5 Grandblades, AND have 6 Liberator Primes. How do you have 6 liberator primes in a unit of 5 liberators?

15) Battleline does not show all battleline units unless you are in matched play, such as apparently Ironjawz has 0 battleline options even if you have the Allegiance set to Ironjawz unless you are in matched play.

16) May buttons are still very small and hard to press on a small screen.

17) It still only lets you have one army at a time / mixes the units in the "My Battle" part of the app so you can not use it easily for 2 player games (?).

18) Several other items, however this post is already quite long so I will post those another time.

Overall, disappointing however it does show promise of being useful in the future. Several of the core features such as point views, finding units and accurate detection of purchases are broken and the new features such as the take a picture of your unit are hidden and buggy as well however the new development work at all shows that they have at least not abandoned it and the new $ from the subscription hopefully can help fund development work.
When you compare it to other competitors applications on the market today, you find that with GW's app you have no way to track game progress, no way to track multiple armies, no way to mark what units are in what battalion, etc. which makes it quite feature light, so there is much work for their team to do yet.

KaptainWalrus wrote:
I have to say, the monthly fee completely kills it for me. I know $.99 is fairly trivial once a month, however it seems like like just another money grab that puts a bad taste in my mouth. Take a look at Corvus Belli's Infinity. They have an Army Builder App, that seems very similar to what GW has here. The Infinity Army Builder app, is not only available on desktop as well, but its completely free. And yes, any changes or updates to unit points or rules, are updated in the army builder. If Infinity can do it for free, I don't see any reason why GW can't as well.