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2017/03/24 18:44:27
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Belgium
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I've heard that the Dark Eldar capture Astartes, tyranids and such to bring them to Commoragh at times. I'm not questioning their capabilities to do so, but was it ever detailed how they manage to do such a thing? Their way of doing so? Astartes would rather kill themselves or die trying to escape rather than being held captive, same with intelligent tyranids such as a Hive Tyrant (I've actually got the confirmation they did manage to capture one). Do they use Tesseract labyrinths or some other surnatural devices?
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2017/03/24 19:09:58
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Battleship Captain
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Sometimes -in one extreme case they literally stole a planet complete with the hive swarms on it.
However, they do have access to paralytic toxins and arcane tech equivalents able to paralyse or stun even an astartes. A deathwatch kill team gets taken down with toxin darts that do so in Xenos Hunters.
Bringing ina hive tyrant is similar - slice all of its tendons, drag it in and throw it in a cell - it'll heal....
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2017/03/24 19:40:43
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Eldar are the superior race in 40K. This is as true in the fluff as on the table top. And Dark Eldar are not shy in the methods they will use.
I mean, Eldar have even created gods, so I don't see how it's a stretch of logic to assume they could capture beings like powerful Nids or Astartes
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2017/03/24 20:02:30
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Wales
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Galef wrote:Eldar are the superior race in 40K. This is as true in the fluff as on the table top.
I mean, Eldar have even created gods.
If by superior you mean "spam the most powerful units and the cheesiest units to win then" I totally agree. I also agree on the whole "created god's" scenario. Good to know that if you become so depraved and deviant in your pleasures you can create your own chaos deity and create a warp catastrophe so large it swallows planets and leads to your civilization becoming near extinct.
But hey, you are the superior race. As long as you gave a soul stone to save your arse from an eternity of being Slaanesh's play thing...
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2017/03/24 20:19:42
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Freddy Kruger wrote: Galef wrote:Eldar are the superior race in 40K. This is as true in the fluff as on the table top.
I mean, Eldar have even created gods.
If by superior you mean "spam the most powerful units and the cheesiest units to win then" I totally agree. I also agree on the whole "created god's" scenario. Good to know that if you become so depraved and deviant in your pleasures you can create your own chaos deity and create a warp catastrophe so large it swallows planets and leads to your civilization becoming near extinct.
But hey, you are the superior race. As long as you gave a soul stone to save your arse from an eternity of being Slaanesh's play thing...
Superior beings make mistakes too. That's why they are creating a new god in the current fluff. Ynnead is gonna put his big sister in her place.
Eldar were themselves created by the Old Ones (near immortal being with mastery of matter, time, space...so basically gods) with the specific purpose of being the ultimate mortal race and to snuff out the Necrontyr (admittedly that didn't go well for them).
The fact that Eldar have survived 10,000+ years of being a "dying" race is a testament to how superior they are. Humans certainly wouldn't have lasted as long under the same circumstances (which even the Eldar have drawn parallels to in recent years)
The only power in the universe that could doom them at the height of their empire was themselves.
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2017/03/24 20:57:18
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Eliphas wrote:I've heard that the Dark Eldar capture Astartes, tyranids and such to bring them to Commoragh at times. I'm not questioning their capabilities to do so, but was it ever detailed how they manage to do such a thing? Their way of doing so? Astartes would rather kill themselves or die trying to escape rather than being held captive, same with intelligent tyranids such as a Hive Tyrant (I've actually got the confirmation they did manage to capture one). Do they use Tesseract labyrinths or some other surnatural devices?
Surprise Speed and Skill
and Fancy tech
Most Humans, even space marines have no clue that dark eldar even exist. Sure there are eldar, they can be found on maiden worlds living the primative life or on these strange craftworlds slowly moving through space, but who knew they could also just open a portal randomly on your planet and jump you while you are least suspecting it, and cart you off through the same portal.
They also have incredible tech. Posions, stasis generators, neural inhibitors, debilitating snares you name it.
And they have been doing it for 10,000 years. At this point they are good at it.
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2017/03/24 21:43:24
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Real question is would they deal in psychers? They'd make for good entertainment, but nobody wants a slaaneshi demon crawling out of their skull in the middle of comorragh.
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2017/03/24 22:43:29
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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Mr Nobody wrote:Real question is would they deal in psychers? They'd make for good entertainment, but nobody wants a slaaneshi demon crawling out of their skull in the middle of comorragh.
Unlikely.
There the only thing banned in the dark city.
And despite being dark eldar that rule is held to tightly. A psyker going bad would be bad. Its not like a prisoner would have reason to control said danger.
Blanks are fine. Blanks are valuable. They not effected by them like craft world kin.
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2017/03/25 01:46:00
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In a game of 40K, when a unit is 'killed' or otherwise removed from play, they don't necessarily die. They could be knocked out or simply too wounded to continue the current fight. Keep in mind, most games of 40K are really only a minuet or two of actual combat. So those marines or tyranids a Dark Eldar play kills may not be dead. The Dark Eldar make extensive use of poison, since they love to capture their prey, the poison being used is most likely some sort of 'knock out' drug.
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2017/03/25 03:17:11
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Cut off all their limbs and hang them above Vect's house like a Christmas decoration.
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2017/03/25 10:17:27
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Dakka Veteran
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Even in the Chaos Marine Black Library books, the Dark Eldar captured an experienced and chaos mutated sorceror via ambush tactis and toxins. He wound up escaping his bonds via his acidic saliva and fought his way out into the hallway while naked. He did wake up during his imprisonment and summon a bunch of daemons of Slaanesh, though, so it may not always be a great idea, though a point of great pride for them if they can cut em up. That said, he also discovered several other members of his unit that had been dissected alive, even as far as removing the black carapace.
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2017/03/25 15:08:42
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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The Harlequins sometimes capture Astartes to fulfil bargains with Commorrites. There was an instance where they took an entire Ultramarine strike force without a fight and sent them to the Haemonculi.
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2017/03/25 18:55:59
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Norn Queen
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The Eldar made a new god. The Necons killed and enslaved theirs. The Eldar are not the Superior race in 40k. They are certainly one of the most advanced. But their advancement only came about because they were such a powerful weapon made for a war they lost, in the aftermath of which the Victors decided to take a little nap.
If the Necrons didn't go to sleep the Eldar probably would be extinct long ago. Same with the Orks. The only reason these races had time to grow and spread is the Necrons let them through negligence.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2017/03/25 20:17:14
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Lance845 wrote:The Eldar made a new god. The Necons killed and enslaved theirs. The Eldar are not the Superior race in 40k. They are certainly one of the most advanced. But their advancement only came about because they were such a powerful weapon made for a war they lost, in the aftermath of which the Victors decided to take a little nap.
If the Necrons didn't go to sleep the Eldar probably would be extinct long ago. Same with the Orks. The only reason these races had time to grow and spread is the Necrons let them through negligence.
Yet they still fell for that totally obvious C'tan scam... Clearly great power does not necessarily include common sense...
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2017/03/25 20:43:29
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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In the case of the nids, in the 5th ed DE book during the "alliance" between the haemonculous coven and the tau against the nids the dark eldar are literally carting carnifexes off into webway gates by trapping them in energy cages.
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2017/03/25 23:01:42
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Bobug wrote:In the case of the nids, in the 5th ed DE book during the "alliance" between the haemonculous coven and the tau against the nids the dark eldar are literally carting carnifexes off into webway gates by trapping them in energy cages.
a Swarm lord or a bio titan woud make a rather good best for thr fighting pits.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2017/03/28 00:13:06
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Stormin' Stompa
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jhe90 wrote:Bobug wrote:In the case of the nids, in the 5th ed DE book during the "alliance" between the haemonculous coven and the tau against the nids the dark eldar are literally carting carnifexes off into webway gates by trapping them in energy cages.
a Swarm lord or a bio titan woud make a rather good best for thr fighting pits.
Where does one keep an angry bio titan?
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2017/03/28 00:46:12
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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The 5th ed codex also had the story about Vect's rise to power, in which it explains how he captures a Spacemarine Strike cruiser
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2017/03/28 03:25:31
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Very, very, cleverly.
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2017/03/28 05:01:47
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Mr Nobody wrote: jhe90 wrote:Bobug wrote:In the case of the nids, in the 5th ed DE book during the "alliance" between the haemonculous coven and the tau against the nids the dark eldar are literally carting carnifexes off into webway gates by trapping them in energy cages.
a Swarm lord or a bio titan woud make a rather good best for thr fighting pits.
Where does one keep an angry bio titan?
In an extradimensional pocket inside an extradimensional pocket of the webway.
Corrmoragh is larger than one can possible imagine. You could probably let it run loose for weeks and not have it damage anything important.
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2017/03/28 18:00:48
Subject: How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Or encased in living glass, hidden as part of the Wych Cult arena upon which the Gladiators are fighting. Then during the finale, the cure for the Glass Plague is pumped into the Bio-titian and he comes back to life as a boss battle.
I could totally see a suitably well of Wych cult doing this.
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2017/03/29 18:23:11
Subject: Re:How do the Dark Eldar capture strong beings like Astartes or Tyranids?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Belgium
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Actually, shardnets from the wych cults would help to capture living beings as well I assume, besides just incapacitating enemies for an easier kill?
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