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Hi all,

40k player making the move into 30k. After spending some time trying to settle on a legion, I think I’ve decided on Thousand Sons. I’m trying to shy away from full blown power gaming, hence I won’t be using Magnus…for now. I still want a pretty good army though!

I’ve been a fan of dreadnoughts for a while, and the TS dreads look pretty sweet. Hopefully the Osirions will be released pretty soon.

So here’s what I’ve come up with.

Thousand Sons – Guard of the Crimson King (3000 points)

Praetor – Artificer, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Arcane Litanies, Digital Lasers, ML3
5 Veterans – Asphyx Shells, Marksman, ML1
10 Khenetai Blade Occult
Osirion Dread – TL Volkite Culverin
Osirion Dread – TL Volkite Culverin
5 Sekhmet Terminators – Cataphractii, Force Axes, 5 Combi-meltas
5 Sekhmet Terminators – Cataphractii, Force Axes, 5 Combi-meltas
Support Squad – 10 man, Rotor Cannons, Asphyx Shells
Support Squad – 10 man, Rotor Cannons, Asphyx Shells
Deredeo – Arachnus Lascannon, Aiolos Missile
Deredeo – Anvilus Autocannon, Aiolos Missile
Spartan – Flare Shield, Ceramite

So the majority of the list will take Raptora (for +1++) and easier casting on telekinesis. Terminators will take Levitate and a witchfire to suit whatever I’m facing if they get to pick. Otherwise, just rolling on telekinesis. Praetor goes with the Khenetai in the Spartan. He will probably roll on divination, despite being Raptora. Prescience, Forewarning, Misfortune, Precognition are all amazing powers for that unit. The Khenetai will be Pavoni, and roll for some sweet biomancy. Iron arm, Endurance or Warp Speed make them an incredible unit. The Vets will likely be outflanking with Pyromancy, and the Osirion Dreads will try to roll up some witchfires…or maybe levitate. For the sake of not being a dick, I’ll be avoiding invisi and telepathy in general. The support squads will be Corvidae, so they can stand still and reroll 1’s to hit, then shred to wound with the Asphyx shells. I’m not expecting these guys to be amazing, but I think rotor cannons look baller.

I’ve got about 25 points to burn, and I’d love to give the 2nd Deredeo a lascannon loadout.

Any thoughts? Is there any solution I’m missing to particular things? I don’t have any of the army quite yet, just trying to get a pretty good idea of a list to build towards before I get to purchasing stuff.

Cheers

One thing is you only have one IC and if he dies it's really bad for thousand sons players. And remember the psykers dreads are HQ so if you do wish to add a 2ed you will need to drop one

Oldmike wrote:
One thing is you only have one IC and if he dies it's really bad for thousand sons players. And remember the psykers dreads are HQ so if you do wish to add a 2ed you will need to drop one

Doesn't the Age of Darkness FOC have 3 HQ slots?


Edit: Nevermind, i got what you're saying.

I'm not super worried about that. If it happens, it happens. Stops the army from being too good. Also..Fluffy!

Other than the Deredeo and the Spartan, how are you dealing with opposition tanks?

 Drasius wrote:
Other than the Deredeo and the Spartan, how are you dealing with opposition tanks?

Levitating combi meltas?
I can get some melta bombs in there. Some psychic powers will help too.
Osirion dreads in combat.

Spartan seems overkill for 11 guys..
Could drop to a LR phobos to save points and have 9 khenetai or add an apothecary as well.

Vets seem a bit wasted being 5 guys with upgrades but no protection.

Also not convinced by the HQ dreads. Maybe drop one for another backup IC

Belly wrote:

 Drasius wrote:
Other than the Deredeo and the Spartan, how are you dealing with opposition tanks?

Levitating combi meltas?
I can get some melta bombs in there. Some psychic powers will help too.
Osirion dreads in combat.

Melta bombs will help a little. You're dreads will need to survive, but they can open tin cans.

Don't rely on the meltas, though. At the AdeptiCon 2500 point tournament 2 weeks ago, every Land Raider, Spartan, or Super Heavy allowed to take Armored Ceremite took Armored Ceremite. Trying to glance with S8 shots isn't good odds.

Right, I wanted a Spartan because they look awesome. But as it happens, I already have a MkIIb Landraider, which i bought for my marines, but never used. So I can drop the Blade occult to 9, change the Spartan for that...and i've got quite a few spare points.

Dropping one Osirion dread leaves me with about 400 points to spare after changing the Spartan to a Phobos. Ideally to pick up a 2nd HQ IC, and something for Av14.

I’m not overly keen on tanks really. I want to go for a dreadnought sort of theme.

How about a Mastodon? I can stick the Blade occult in there, along with the Osirion Dread, and perhaps the vets or terminators.

Aside from that – what’re good choices for dealing with AV14? Termies with Chainfists are the most consistent option I’d imagine.

Well I like leviathans to kill tanks as there Melta is s9 and they look cool with the drill s10 armorbaine
Also the Lightning has the armorbaine missiles if you like flyers

An apothecary may be a good pick for the blade cult there is the IC one you can even make a psyker

apoc would be nice, but then i'd need the larger tank to transport the squad. If I drop the blade occult below 9, they all get one less attack - so i'm not keen on that.

The lightning looks a very solid choice. I'll play around with points.



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Alright, here’s an updated list following some research and the suggestions I’ve received!

Praetor – Artificer, Paragon Blade, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Arcane Litanies, ML3 (Raptora)
Vigilator – ML1 (Corvidae)
Osirion Dread – TL Volkite Culverin (Raptora)
10 Veterans – Asphyx Shells, ML1 (Pyrae)
9 Khenetai Blade Occult – Artificer on sarge (Pavoni)
Land Raider Phobos – Multi-melta, Ceramite
Sekhmet Terminators – Force Axes, 5 Combi-meltas, Cataphractii (Raptora)
Sekhmet Terminators – Force Axes, 5 Combi-meltas, Cataphractii (Raptora)
10 Support Marines – Rotor cannons, Asphyx Shells (Corvidae)
10 Support Marines – Rotor cannons, Asphyx Shells (Corvidae)
Lightning Strike Fighter – Lascannon, Autocannon, 2x2 Kraken Penetrators, Ground Tracking, Battle Servitor Control
Deredeo – Anvilus Autocannon, Aiolos Missile Launcher (Raptora)
Deredeo – Anvilus Autocannon, Aiolos Missile Launcher (Raptora)

I downgraded the Deredeo’s Lascannons to the Autocannons because they seem more consistent with twin linked and sunder. Also because I don’t think two spartans in a single list will be a frequenct occurrence. The lightning strike fighter will basically kill a spartan by itself in one turn, with the 4 Kraken Missiles.

The Vigilator was taken because he’s cheap, and I couldn’t find a good use for any of the others. I was thinking about a libby, but it’d be 150+ points for a setup I like…and I can get a ML on any other Consul. I’d probably be tempted to get him into the thick of it too. If I stick him with a Support squad, he’ll hopefully be out of harms way. He could also outflank with the Vet’s, but I don’t really see any benefit to it. He could also scout a unit of terminators. Rolling on Div, he’s got a chance at misfortune, scriers, forewarning – all of which will be handy for him to have.

I’ve beefed up the Veterans. Somebody asked what they’re for. They’re scoring for starters, and they’ll be outflanking. With the sniper rule, and Asphyx Shells, it’s 20 shredding, rending boltgun shots. Rolling the squad on Pyromancy means I’ll get a heavy flamer, along with maybe a nova, small blast or a meltagun. I think this might benefit from the sniper rule, but I’m not sure. I’ll have a half decent chance of getting sciers gaze on something, so that means more reliability in bringing them on where I need them (and also getting the Lightning on).