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2017/12/15 17:52:56
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Regular Dakkanaut
Washington State
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/
Some interesting stuff here. Automatically Appended Next Post: I actually like the Smite changes and the change to character targeting makes a lot of sense to me.
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2017/12/15 17:59:45
Subject: Re:FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Both make sense and generally awesome. Much speculated at on various podcasts and stuff.
Should *maybe* be an exception to the smite thing for armies that do mini-smites like Grey Knights...
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2017/12/15 18:03:01
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Smite hurts Thousand Sons as well.
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2017/12/15 18:05:09
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Remember they're Beta Test rules. Try them, apply them and feed back to GW! They're in a listening mood.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/12/15 18:11:00
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Yes, I think from now on I will use these in games.
Already fed back to the new FAQ email address about the Tallarn Ambush debate we've been having!!
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TO of Death Before Dishonour - A Warhammer 40k Tournament with a focus on great battles between well painted, thematic armies on tables with full terrain.
Read the blog at:
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2017/12/15 18:12:16
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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and chaos daemons. Hopefully they'll all get some sort of boost to help them out considerung their reliance and focus on sorcery.
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You're not playing the game like I play it...why aren't you playing the game like I play it?! O_O |
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2017/12/15 18:17:34
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Try it and feedback to them -
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2017/12/15 18:20:14
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I like the changes and I like that they have created a well-defined update schedule. Good job GW on this one.
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2017/12/15 18:22:29
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Blitza da warboy wrote: and chaos daemons. Hopefully they'll all get some sort of boost to help them out considerung their reliance and focus on sorcery.
Daemons will hopefully have decent (varying) psychic powers on their own without having to resort to cheap smite spammers. Totally kills horrors in competition. As a nurgle player, no puss off my wounds...
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2017/12/15 18:23:24
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I like all of it. Additionally I don't know if it was there before but the page link to all FAQ on the header of the community site is awesome.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
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2017/12/15 18:26:30
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Silentz wrote:Yes, I think from now on I will use these in games.
Already fed back to the new FAQ email address about the Tallarn Ambush debate we've been having!!
haha good man I did a sarky comment on a Facebook post that they picked up too.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/12/15 18:27:33
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Lieutenant General
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Hulksmash wrote:I like all of it. Additionally I don't know if it was there before but the page link to all FAQ on the header of the community site is awesome.
It's been there for about a month.
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2017/12/15 18:35:28
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Either way it's awesome
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
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2017/12/15 18:50:02
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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For some armies, that smite change adds more book keeping and keeping track. Which is something they were trying to get away from. This feels like a step back (even though it calms down the power a bit).
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2017/12/15 18:50:28
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Been Around the Block
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Inferno FAQ when
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2017/12/15 19:00:30
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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With this smite change Grey Knights Smite needs to go back to normal range and normal damage.
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2017/12/15 19:05:08
Subject: Re:FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Another change to the character rule, and it still counts units locked in melee as obstructing.
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2017/12/15 19:06:10
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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New-GW the same as Old-MW. Amirite? Anyone? eh?
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
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2017/12/15 19:20:21
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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The Smite change tells me that Smite isn't meant to be your primary offensive ability regardless of which army you're running.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2017/12/15 19:23:29
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Dakka Veteran
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EnTyme wrote:The Smite change tells me that Smite isn't meant to be your primary offensive ability regardless of which army you're running.
Then do not limit other psychic powers to only one attempt per Phase, just extend the BETA Smite rule to each power (with the exception that identical powers do not stack) and magically you won't have psykers being mortal wound batteries (they can only cast Smite after all)
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2017/12/15 19:32:10
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Or take a more balanced list that doesn't rely entirely on psychic powers for damage.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2017/12/15 19:35:53
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Dakka Veteran
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EnTyme wrote:Or take a more balanced list that doesn't rely entirely on psychic powers for damage.
You can't understand a gak then. I want psykers to be support characters but with this Rule of One nonsense they will NEVER be picked for anything else other than Smite
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2017/12/15 19:38:12
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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KurtAngle2 wrote: EnTyme wrote:The Smite change tells me that Smite isn't meant to be your primary offensive ability regardless of which army you're running.
Then do not limit other psychic powers to only one attempt per Phase, just extend the BETA Smite rule to each power (with the exception that identical powers do not stack) and magically you won't have psykers being mortal wound batteries (they can only cast Smite after all)
I don't think any duplicate casting of other spells is a good idea. You're easily going to trip into broken combo territory even with the negatives.
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2017/12/15 19:44:02
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Disappointed with how they're handling Forgeworld. They'll mess with the point values, but they won't actually FAQ anything. Half measures that show that they really have no cohesion between their studios, and no intention of developing any. Either adopt FW in it's entirety, or leave it be, because they're clearly of two different minds when it comes to actually writing the rules. And this decision only serves to emphasize how half-assed their handling of FW was in Chapter Approved.
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2017/12/15 19:51:02
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Those Smite beta rules are really great.
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2017/12/15 19:54:09
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Steps in right direction but psychics still non-scalable. Ah well. Not expecting better scaling psychic rules until 9th or 10th edition at best.
But anything reducing mortal wound spam is good thing.
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2017/12/15 19:56:15
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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EnTyme wrote:Or take a more balanced list that doesn't rely entirely on psychic powers for damage.
Yeah I'll just take a different thousand sons list that doesn't have all those OP spammed psyker characters
HQ: no HQs.
Troops: Tzaangors in auxiliary detachments
Elites: Helbrutes
Heavy Support: Predators
that seems much more healthy and fluffy, thanks!
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2017/12/15 20:01:59
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Yeah. Use hyperbole. That'll make people sympathize with your argument.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2017/12/15 20:05:39
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't think any duplicate casting of other spells is a good idea. You're easily going to trip into broken combo territory even with the negatives.
Alternative take on the phase I want to pop out: All uses of a power must be declared at once, for each use beyond the first apply a -1 penalty which applies to all tests when made.
I've had my eye on a Tsons army for ages, but the rule of one kinda kicks them in the nuts for what would make them an otherwise interesting army. This seems like a more risky option that still allows for armies with a dozen sorcerers in it to actually do something, since some of them have that naturally.
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2017/12/15 20:08:11
Subject: FAQ Timelines and new Character and Smite rules
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Dakka Veteran
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Daedalus81 wrote:KurtAngle2 wrote: EnTyme wrote:The Smite change tells me that Smite isn't meant to be your primary offensive ability regardless of which army you're running.
Then do not limit other psychic powers to only one attempt per Phase, just extend the BETA Smite rule to each power (with the exception that identical powers do not stack) and magically you won't have psykers being mortal wound batteries (they can only cast Smite after all)
I don't think any duplicate casting of other spells is a good idea. You're easily going to trip into broken combo territory even with the negatives.
Not really if you can't cast the same power on the same unit
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