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2018/01/14 11:39:49
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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According to all the chatter, we only have till Saturday before the FAQ kicks in and bans the wonder twins from using the Daemon Stratagems, so here's a list just for this week to have some fun with the new rules before the fun is outlawed again:
Battalion Detachment
HQ
Chaos Lord
-Jump Pack
-Plasma pistol
-Power axe
Sorcerer
-Jump Pack
-Plasma pistol
Troops
3xCultists
Battalion Detachment
HQ
Chaos Lord
-Plasma pistol
-Power axe
Exalted Champion
-Plasma pistol
-Power axe
Troops
Khorne Berzerkers
-Icon of Wrath
-Power fist + Chainsword
-4xChainsword + Chainaxe
Khorne Berzerkers
-Icon of Wrath
-Power fist + Chainsword
-4xChainsword + Chainaxe
Khorne Berzerkers
-Icon of Wrath
-Power fist + Chainsword
-4xChainsword + Chainaxe
2xRhino
Patrol Detachment
HQ
Herald of Nurgle
Troops
Nurglings
Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment
Magnus the Red
Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment
Mortarion
1991pts, 9CP
2CP to throw Magnus into deep strike, turn 1 Morty gets a 3++ during your opponents shooting for the tasty 3++/5+++ and Maggy drops down with Warptime to jump the bubble wrapping, Weavers for the tasty 3++ re-rolling 1s and either death hex or gaze of Magnus depending on the army. Nurglings and cultists grab objectives and the Zerker horde drives up the table with Morty to clear out whatever is left in Maggy's wake.
What do we think? Good? Bad? OP? Suggestions? Let me know!
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/14 12:39:50
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Either get a sorcerer with warptime or Ahriman on disc to cast warptime onto Magnus. Yes Magnus can cast it upon himself but when he drops in, he could be within deny range. So having another model to cast it on him from behind that’s out of deny range is better. Also consider casting weaver of fates from Ahriman (another key power you don’t want to be denied).
Why not consider this:
Nurgle battalion:
Herald of Nurgle, fleshy abundance
Herald of Nurgle, miasma of pestilence
3 x 10 plaguebearers
Supreme commmand:
Anheiman on disc
Herald of tzeentch, staff of change
Herald of tzeentch, staff of change
Super heavy detachment:
Magnus
Morty
Renegade knight, reaper chainsword and thermal cannon
But yeah the FAQ will stop them using that strategm. It removes the one main weakness the Chaos primarchs have which is having to start on the table turn 1. You also only have 11 drops with the above list, greatly increasing your chances of the +1 to see who decides to go first.
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2018/01/14 13:10:03
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Hmmm, I see what you what you mean but I'm counting on the Zerkers to counter horde armies: something that could really big down Magnus (and even Morty), your list doesn't really have that. Besides, positioning of Magnus can eliminate DtW attempts and I still have the sorcerer there to back up Maggy just in case. On top of that my list also has 11 drops (the entire WE detachment just counts as 2 inside the rhino).
But I don't know how strong DtW will be against this list, I might try out a second list with Ahriman instead.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/14 18:07:40
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
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2018/01/14 18:17:09
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/15 00:25:58
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
Pg 214 of the BRB recommends maximum 3 detachments for 1k-2k points, figured that was generally how people were playing (as most competitive lists don't go over 3 detachments). Guess it depends on the meta
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2018/01/15 07:43:59
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Zid wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
Pg 214 of the BRB recommends maximum 3 detachments for 1k-2k points, figured that was generally how people were playing (as most competitive lists don't go over 3 detachments). Guess it depends on the meta
Most competitive lists don't go over 3 because of ITC rules, but I don't play ITC.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/15 08:31:57
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
Pg 214 of the BRB recommends maximum 3 detachments for 1k-2k points, figured that was generally how people were playing (as most competitive lists don't go over 3 detachments). Guess it depends on the meta
Most competitive lists don't go over 3 because of ITC rules, but I don't play ITC.
you will never play that list in any kind of tournament, ITC or not, no one allow more than 3 detachment unless narrative/for fun games
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2018/01/15 09:19:36
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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blackmage wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
Pg 214 of the BRB recommends maximum 3 detachments for 1k-2k points, figured that was generally how people were playing (as most competitive lists don't go over 3 detachments). Guess it depends on the meta
Most competitive lists don't go over 3 because of ITC rules, but I don't play ITC.
you will never play that list in any kind of tournament, ITC or not, no one allow more than 3 detachment unless narrative/for fun games
Who restricts it to 3 detachments?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/15 09:29:54
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Most large events in the UK restrict to 3 detachments, majority of those don’t allow duplicating detachments.
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2018/01/15 09:59:27
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
please forgive me for having a stick to far up my butt... but this was the most important part of this post here.
Now i think fun would be direcrlt proportional to the number of detachments if you are infering from zid statement. As you having too many detachment is meaning you are having fun as opposed to i guess??? not having fun???(speaking of which do people not have fun at tournaments??? i love that stuff win or lose).
Any way so more detachment=more fun so it would be directly proportional no??/
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2018/01/15 11:10:52
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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mmimzie wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
please forgive me for having a stick to far up my butt... but this was the most important part of this post here.
Now i think fun would be direcrlt proportional to the number of detachments if you are infering from zid statement. As you having too many detachment is meaning you are having fun as opposed to i guess??? not having fun???(speaking of which do people not have fun at tournaments??? i love that stuff win or lose).
Any way so more detachment=more fun so it would be directly proportional no??/
Ah, now I see, I misread Zid's post.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/15 14:18:16
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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NP
I always look for three detachments when I review lists, I figured it was a basic "all tourneys do this" thing. No worries!
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2018/01/15 14:29:31
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Zid wrote:NP
I always look for three detachments when I review lists, I figured it was a basic "all tourneys do this" thing. No worries!
I don't really play in tournaments that much and this list is just for this week as it may not be allowed after Saturday.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/01/15 14:37:53
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:NP
I always look for three detachments when I review lists, I figured it was a basic "all tourneys do this" thing. No worries!
I don't really play in tournaments that much and this list is just for this week as it may not be allowed after Saturday.
Plan for the worst, hope for the best But yes, your right. I think it was un-intended to be used on the Primarchs... of course, you never know.
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2018/01/15 16:27:55
Subject: [2000] - Mortagnus - A week to abuse the rules before nerf-hammer
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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mrhappyface wrote: blackmage wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote: mrhappyface wrote: Zid wrote:Taking this is a fun list? Because you have 5 detachments lol
What? Is fun inversely proportional to the number of detachments in your army?
Pg 214 of the BRB recommends maximum 3 detachments for 1k-2k points, figured that was generally how people were playing (as most competitive lists don't go over 3 detachments). Guess it depends on the meta
Most competitive lists don't go over 3 because of ITC rules, but I don't play ITC.
you will never play that list in any kind of tournament, ITC or not, no one allow more than 3 detachment unless narrative/for fun games
Who restricts it to 3 detachments?
gw for matched play suggest at 2000pts max 3 detachments and in tournaments no one will allow more than this, and some wont allow duplicating detachement., never seen a major event allowing it.
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