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2018/10/22 05:18:32
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Norn Queen
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Lets discuss. Try to keep spoilers to a minimum for at least a week to give people a chance to watch it all.
I think this might be the best netflix marvel season finally beating out JJ S1. The villains were great. The heroes struggles were great. It fully utilized it's whole 13 episodes without feeling formulaic.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2018/10/22 06:42:25
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Terrific season, and it used it's full 13 episode run effectively without ever dragging or going off the rails (only LC Season 2 and the Punisher have managed that).
Great action sequences, good resolution to a lot of arcs that were started in season one, a more more Foggy/Karen than in season's past, and a story that made Fisk truly frightening.
I await its imminent cancellation...
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2018/10/22 12:55:54
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Yup. Better than S1 IMO, a contender for best season of the Netflix Marvel shows overall.
Catholic Guilt Ninja was still firmly in evidence, but it helped that this time he actually had some real reasons to be sulky and morose. It also helped that he had the Nun around to poke his bubble of self-pity occasionally, and that so much of the run was dedicated to other characters(more Foggy is always good, Fisk was once again excellent, Poindexter's tale was riveting, and they even made me feel some sympathy for Karen beyond immediate responses to her being threatened or hurt).
And I still can't believe that fight sequence was all one single take with no cuts or edits. Lunacy. These guys are seriously the best stunt coordinators on TV, hands down.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2018/10/22 19:01:32
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
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Hands down my favourite Netflix Marvel series so far. For me, it's the first series not to have a mid season dip in quality. The acting was great, the fight choreography was on point, the villains were well rounded and the best thing - no more Electra!
Plus that one take... Easily one of the best scenes in any TV show. The only comparison I can give is to the one take towards the end of Children of Men
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2018/10/22 19:05:20
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
London
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I haven't been watching this at all, ever. But going from the comments above, would it be OK to just dive in at S3? Or would I be missing huge amounts of character development/origin/background, etc.?
I'm in need of something to binge on ...
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2018/10/22 19:09:50
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Norn Queen
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I would tell you to watch it all. People are in places for reasons. Its probably not 100% needed but it will help.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2018/10/22 21:06:31
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I really like how they do address some of the plot points raised in S1 i.e. and it playing a pretty important role in this season. Fantastic fighting choreography as usual, and I like how they built up Bullseye as a villain in this season rather than dropping him in unceremoniously as a hired goon. It says something when he came off as much more threatening slinging pencils and glass than centuries old ninja-killers from the Hand. The ending reminds me a bit of The Punisher, at least with regards with what happens to the two main villains being put into surgery, it almost makes me think they'll cross paths at some point, like a "Heroes beat me up anonymous" support group, lol.
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2018/10/24 08:43:28
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Enjoyed it overall, although a little irritated that
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And that probably didn't really need to be spoilered, but it's sort of an important plot point towards Matt's state of mind, I suppose...
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2018/10/24 13:44:34
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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2 episodes left for me so far .. it started slow for me but I'm enjoying it more now. I also agree about he costume thing but I think I see why they did that. I think my favorite character is Kingpin though, Vincent D'Onofrio does a great job.
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2018/10/24 14:10:08
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Does one have to watch The Defenders to know whats happening at the start of this show? Didn't care for 3/4 of the characters in that show so never finished it.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2018/10/24 14:25:25
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Norn Queen
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nels1031 wrote:Does one have to watch The Defenders to know whats happening at the start of this show? Didn't care for 3/4 of the characters in that show so never finished it.
The opening scene of dd s3 is a direct result of the end of defenders.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2018/10/24 15:05:45
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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nels1031 wrote:Does one have to watch The Defenders to know whats happening at the start of this show? Didn't care for 3/4 of the characters in that show so never finished it.
It helps piece some things together, but you can get by on context clues alone. There are some references to the Punisher as well. It is worth it to go watch the entire netflix universe in chronological order if you want to catch all the references. Otherwise, Daredevil stands well enough on its own.
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2018/10/24 18:06:18
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Heard this season was based off of the Born Again storyline. Does it adapt it well enough?
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Faithful... Enlightened... Ambitious... Brethren... WE NEED A NEW DRIVER! THIS ONE IS DEAD! |
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2018/10/24 19:36:12
Subject: Re:Dare Devil S3
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Gargantuan Gargant
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nels1031 wrote:Does one have to watch The Defenders to know whats happening at the start of this show? Didn't care for 3/4 of the characters in that show so never finished it.
It is directly tied to it, but frankly all you need to do is read up on what happens near the end and that's about it. No Hand magic juju or shenanigans (thankfully) to worry about here, so his confrontation with Elektra at the end of Defenders is really about it.
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2018/10/26 01:55:33
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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SkavenLord wrote:Heard this season was based off of the Born Again storyline. Does it adapt it well enough?
It's a bit like MCU Civil War vs comics Civil War - it takes the baseline concepts and some story elements and then adapts them to fit with the universe they've built.
So this story doesn't have Nuke in it (he died in JJ Season 2), and it certainly doesn't have Cap showing up at the end, and it substitutes some characters in places (Bullseye as the 'fake' Daredevil). But it still works really well.
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2018/10/26 05:09:33
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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It also treats Karen a bit better than the "tried to be an actress and failed so hard she ends up a heroin junkie doing porn" version in the comics.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2018/10/26 05:17:57
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Felt like this season needed to happen before season 2. The character development was top notch.
My only complaint is about Kingpin, his machinations were a little too much. I get it that he's a symbol for the corrupting influence of power and money, it's just hard to believe he could have pulled off what he did after the loss of a trusted lieutenant in previous seasons.
The fights were spectacular.
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2018/10/28 23:54:18
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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techsoldaten wrote:Felt like this season needed to happen before season 2. The character development was top notch.
My only complaint is about Kingpin, his machinations were a little too much. I get it that he's a symbol for the corrupting influence of power and money, it's just hard to believe he could have pulled off what he did after the loss of a trusted lieutenant in previous seasons.
The fights were spectacular.
Very interesting! I on the other hand thought that his machinations were, for the most part, pretty obvious and heavy handed. Then again, my wife and I recently watched quite a bit of Blacklist, so the bar for turning the government into your private army while they 'detain' you is pretty high.
The fights were awesome. I loved the contrast of Bullseye and Daredevil's talents.
Much, much better than season 2.
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
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2018/10/29 01:11:03
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sound advices:
1) if Fisk ask you for your jacket or your coat, always say you'd rather not and run away as fast as possible.
2) fighting Bullseye in a tool shop, a restorant or an office is a really bad idea.
3) Fighting Daredevil? A helmet might save your life.
4) Don't make deals with the devil, seriously, it nevers pays.
All in all, that third season was much better than the second (which wasn't all that bad).
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2018/10/30 22:54:19
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Absolutely brilliant stuff, up there with the best of them.
The stunt work in DD has always been top notch, but I'll echo the comments above about their take on Bullseye; shifting the focus from 'he's real good at throwing' to ' anything is a lethal weapon in his hands' worked wonderfully and it was pleasantly understated at times. No 4-point ricochet shots or anything silly, just unnerring accuracy with anything he picked up. I also appreciate that in most of their bouts, it's clear that he's not as good a hand-to-hand fighter as Matt is, when DD gets close he really puts the hurt on him rather than it being a totally one-sided affair.
I do think the star of the show in this series was Agent Nadeem though. There's been a common theme through a lot of the Netflix stuff of how getting dragged into the world of heroes and villains can really screw over normal people, and he fulfils that role in a way that was consistently believable. As a supporting character, I found him far more compelling than most of the others across the Netflixverse.
Fingers crossed we do see more of this, though the finale of S3 would almost be a satisfying conclusion if not. Then again, I'd love to see Fisk as an antagonist in a second series of The Defenders, it'd be an interesting reversal of the previous series, swapping the supernatural for the mundane but no-less-dangerous.
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2018/10/31 02:58:44
Subject: Dare Devil S3
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Norn Queen
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I would like to see Vanessa hire Typhoid Mary to cause some trouble. And then I would love to see the Typhoid or Bloody personality actually come out instead of just Walker.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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